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Center for AI Policy Podcast

#15: Bill Drexel on AI, China, and National Security

Feb 7, 2025
Bill Drexel, a Fellow at the Center for a New American Security, dives into the alarming intersection of AI and national security in the context of U.S.-China relations. He discusses China's aggressive surveillance tactics, particularly in Xinjiang, and the ominous potential for AI to enhance biological weapons. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape of AI development, the implications of autonomous systems, and the need for the U.S. to navigate these challenges while upholding its core values.
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  • China aims to surpass the U.S. in AI and biotechnology, viewing technological leadership as essential for state control and power.
  • The potential misuse of AI in developing targeted bioweapons highlights an urgent need for improved biosecurity measures and international cooperation.

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China's Ambitious AI and Biotech Goals

China aims to surpass the United States in artificial intelligence (AI) by 2030 and biotechnology by 2035. This ambition is driven by the belief that advancing technology is key to solidifying state power and maintaining control over the Chinese population. Historical context indicates that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) views technological leadership as a pathway to prevent future vulnerabilities, such as those perceived in previous power dynamics. The integration of AI into governance strategies showcases this approach, as the CCP seeks to develop advanced systems that can enhance surveillance and control mechanisms.

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