The Rachel Maddow Show

Special Preview of “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace”

Jun 2, 2025
Dive into a chat with actor Jason Bateman as he shares his journey into podcasting and the inspiration behind his hit show "Smartless." The conversation touches on the chaotic political climate, drawing parallels to a gripping narrative filled with twists. Bateman reflects on the unpredictable nature of the Trump era and how it fuels discussions that often blur the lines between reality and fiction. This peek behind the curtain offers a refreshing take on storytelling and the people who shape it.
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ANECDOTE

Jason's Take on Trump Saga

  • Jason Bateman describes following Trump's actions like watching a complex scripted show.
  • He notes real events often surpass fictional 'jump the shark' moments with escalating unpredictability.
INSIGHT

Trump Story as Unpredictable Show

  • The Trump administration's actions are like an unpredictable TV show with unexpected cliffhangers.
  • This real-life chaos challenges conventional ideas of shame and plausibility in politics.
INSIGHT

Reality Outpaces Political Fiction

  • The political climate makes fiction writing difficult as reality outpaces imagination.
  • Normal standards like shame don't restrict real political figures, causing continuous surprises.
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