Mike Stonebraker, CTO & Co-Founder At DBOS, discusses the idea of building an operating system on top of a database. He explores the challenges of Heisen bugs in databases, integrating databases into OS, and the benefits of simplicity in systems. Stonebraker also delves into database transaction optimization, large language model integration at D-BOS, and the future potential of Postgres SQL database.
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Operating systems structured on top of databases for improved performance and operational efficiency.
Databases like Postgres SQL gain industry traction due to open-source nature, advanced features, and community-driven ethos.
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Challenging Traditional Database Usage
The podcast delves into the innovative idea of structuring operating systems on top of databases instead of vice versa, explored by database expert Mike Stonebreaker. This unique approach stemmed from the increasing complexity faced by contemporary operating systems such as Linux due to scale and legacy constraints. By considering operating system state management as a database problem, the concept envisions databases forming the core of operating systems to streamline performance and address operational challenges.
Success Factors of Postgres SQL
Mike Stonebreaker attributes the success of Postgres SQL not solely to his innovation but to a dedicated programming team that has nurtured and promoted the database system. Compared to MySQL, Postgres SQL's open-source, community-driven nature, resistance to external acquisition, and superior features have bolstered its adoption within the industry. Stonebreaker envisions it becoming a dominant database system, endorsed by prominent cloud providers, owing to its community-driven ethos and advanced functionalities.
Evolution and Applicability of Databases in Modern Trends
The podcast highlights the ongoing developments in database technology and its alignment with major trends like cloud migration. Moving applications to the cloud presents a unique opportunity for businesses to refine their infrastructure and application architecture. Cloud advancements prompt shifts towards disaggregated storage, serverless computing models, and necessitate database system adaptability. Furthermore, the integration of machine learning models and emerging application domains like genomics present intriguing prospects for database systems.
Deboss as a Security and Efficiency Solution
Deboss, an innovative operating system integrated with a database core, promises significant security enhancements and operational efficiency benefits compared to traditional systems. Its unique architecture significantly reduces the attack surface, simplifies monitoring capabilities, and effectively combats ransomware attacks. By consolidating operating system states in a database, Deboss facilitates automatic recovery mechanisms, streamlined debugging processes, and offers a next-generation programming environment. This comprehensive security approach and streamlined structure make Deboss an appealing solution for various industries seeking enhanced operational resilience and ease of maintenance.
Databases are ubiquitous, and you don’t need to be a data practitioner to know that all data everywhere is stored in a database—or is it? While the majority of data around the world lives in a database, the data that helps run the heart of our operating systems—the core functions of our computers— is not stored in the same place as everywhere else. This is due to database storage sitting ‘above’ the operating system, requiring the OS to run before the databases can be used. But what if the OS was built ‘on top’ of a database? What difference could this fundamental change make to how we use computers?
Mike Stonebraker is a distinguished computer scientist known for his foundational work in database systems, he is also currently CTO & Co-Founder At DBOS. His extensive career includes significant contributions through academic prototypes and commercial startups, leading to the creation of several pivotal relational database companies such as Ingres Corporation, Illustra, Paradigm4, StreamBase Systems, Tamr, Vertica, and VoltDB. Stonebraker's role as chief technical officer at Informix and his influential research earned him the prestigious 2014 Turing Award.
Stonebraker's professional journey spans two major phases: initially at the University of California, Berkeley, focusing on relational database management systems like Ingres and Postgres, and later, from 2001 at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), where he pioneered advanced data management techniques including C-Store, H-Store, SciDB, and DBOS. He remains a professor emeritus at UC Berkeley and continues to influence as an adjunct professor at MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. Stonebraker is also recognized for his editorial work on the book "Readings in Database Systems."
In the episode, Richie and Mike explore the the success of PostgreSQL, the evolution of SQL databases, the shift towards cloud computing and what that means in practice when migrating to the cloud, the impact of disaggregated storage, software and serverless trends, the role of databases in facilitating new data and AI trends, DBOS and it’s advantages for security, and much more.