Joerg Rieger, a distinguished theology professor and advocate for justice, dives into the clash between faith and power. He explores how Christianity can either uplift or harm, urging a critical self-reflection within religious practices. Rieger sheds light on systemic inequalities in America, particularly impacting the Black community, and discusses the transformative potential of liberation theologies. His insights challenge listeners to actively engage faith in politics and strive for social justice, promoting a more equitable world.
The tension between Jesus and Caesar highlights an internal conflict in Christianity between life-giving faith and destructive religious power.
Rieger emphasizes the church's need for self-reflection to redefine its engagement with systemic issues like racism and economic inequality.
The podcast advocates for creating alternative communities and economic practices, such as worker cooperatives, to foster justice and healing.
Deep dives
The Role of Power in Religion
The relationship between power and religion is a central theme addressed in the discussion. It emphasizes that understanding theology requires a critical examination of how power operates within faith communities. The conversation highlights that often churches inadvertently align themselves with dominant societal powers instead of challenging them. This alignment leads to a form of worship that diverges from their foundational beliefs, as they may end up serving ideals that do not promote life and justice.
Life-Giving vs. Death-Dealing Religion
The distinction between life-giving and death-dealing forms of religion is explored extensively. While many people may not consciously desire to perpetuate harm, the historical actions of the Church demonstrate a tendency towards endorsing systems that can be detrimental. This paradox reveals a critical need for self-reflection within religious communities regarding their impact and the commitments they uphold. The ongoing challenge lies in fostering an authentic faith that truly embodies life and healing for all communities.
Christianity and Social Justice
The podcast discusses how contemporary issues like systemic racism and economic inequality require a robust theological response from the church. A focal point is the Black Lives Matter movement, which highlights the urgency of addressing social injustices that predominantly affect marginalized groups. The examination reveals that beyond public outrage, there must be a continuous commitment to addressing economic disparities that contribute to systemic oppression. This broader understanding paves the way for a faith that is genuinely committed to justice and societal well-being.
The Impact of Atheism on Faith Communities
An engaging argument is presented regarding the concept of atheism in relation to dominant religious ideologies. It posits that Christians should adopt a form of atheism that rejects the gods of the dominant social order, advocating instead for an allegiance to a subversive power exemplified by Jesus. This reorientation challenges traditional views about theism and encourages that the true nature of God aligns with the oppressed rather than those in positions of power. The historical roots of this perspective situate early Christians as challengers to empire, emphasizing that authentic faith walking often requires dissenting from the mainstream.
Building Alternative Communities
The call for the church to actively engage in creating alternative forms of community and economics is underscored. It speaks to the importance of organizing collectively to challenge the mainstream societal structures that perpetuate inequality and suffering. Key examples include the revival of worker cooperatives and community organizing efforts, which embody the principles of economic democracy. These initiatives not only address immediate social issues but also seek to revitalize faith communities and encourage deeper connections among members.
When we observe a tension between Jesus and Caesar, we acknowledge that a fundamental tension remains at the heart of Christianity. The tension is not between religion and atheism or secularism. Nor is it between organized religion and personal spirituality or between Christianity and other religions. The tension is located within the heart of Christianity itself because it is a radical conflict between faith that is life-giving for all and faith that is damaging and destructive of people and the earth. In our conversation and his book Jesus vs Caesar, Rieger powerfully guides us into this tension.
Joerg Rieger is Distinguished Professor of Theology and the Cal Turner Chancellor’s Chair of Wesleyan Studies. He is also the founding director of the Wendland-Cook Program in Religion and Justice.
For more than two decades he has worked to bring together theology and the struggles for justice and liberation that mark our age. His work addresses the relation of theology and public life, reflecting on the misuse of power in religion, politics, and economics. His main interest is in developments and movements that bring about change and in the positive contributions of religion and theology. His constructive work in theology draws on a wide range of historical and contemporary traditions, with a concern for manifestations of the divine in the pressures of everyday life.