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Are We All Traumatized? A Conversation with Bhupie Dulay & Abby Chow

Jun 17, 2025
In this thought-provoking dialogue, therapists Bhupie Dulay and Abby Chow dissect the complex landscape of trauma and healing. They explore how societal shifts impact collective mourning and the need for community support. The duo discusses liberatory counseling practices that prioritize BIPOC voices and emphasizes the importance of mutual learning in therapist-client dynamics. They also highlight the importance of consent and dignity in relationships while critiquing conventional trauma narratives. Ultimately, they advocate for joy and connection as essential elements of healing.
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INSIGHT

Trauma as a Systemic Issue

  • Trauma is not solely within an individual's nervous system but shaped by systemic issues like colonialism and white supremacy.
  • Healing is also relational and connected to changing harmful systems, not just individual therapy.
ADVICE

Choosing Anti-Oppressive Therapy

  • Look for therapists who discuss systemic impacts and critique oppressive systems with you.
  • Notice how consent and autonomy are continuously upheld throughout therapy, beyond initial forms.
INSIGHT

Rethinking Trauma Healing

  • Trauma healing isn't one-size-fits-all or only via talk therapy; it includes varied practices like dance, nature, and joy.
  • Capitalism monetizes trauma by pushing multiple trainings and workshops as necessary, which may not always align with individual needs.
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