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Why would the Liberals try to out-Poilievre Poilievre? (with Karina Gould)

Mar 7, 2025

Karina Gould, the youngest and most progressive voice in the Liberal leadership race, tackles critical conversations around maintaining a strong Liberal identity. She warns against becoming Conservative-lite, fearing a repeat of the Democrats' mistakes in the U.S. The discussion dives into pressing topics like trade tensions with the U.S., electoral reform challenges, and the need for a robust approach to online safety and human rights. Gould's vision emphasizes progressive policies and inspires hope for a brighter political future.

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Quick takeaways

Karina Gould stresses the importance of the Liberal Party embracing its progressive values instead of mimicking conservative strategies to appeal to populist leaders.

The discussion highlights the significant economic tensions caused by U.S. tariffs and the need for Canada to adopt protective measures to safeguard its economy.

Deep dives

Critique of Political Strategy

There is concern regarding the approach of appealing to Republicans while disregarding the party's progressive values. Kamala Harris is highlighted as an example of someone who may have overly focused on bipartisan appeal, raising questions about whether the liberal party should adopt a similar strategy in the face of opposition from figures like Pierre Polyev. The prevailing sentiment is that trying to outmaneuver populist leaders by mimicking their ideologies compromises the core essence of liberalism. Maintaining a distinct, bold progressive stance is deemed essential for the party's identity and future success.

Intro

3min

Tariff Tensions and Political Maneuvering

16min

Navigating Carbon Pricing in Canada

4min

Navigating Electoral Reform Challenges

8min

Human Rights and Conflict Resolution in Gaza

2min

Navigating Democracy and Online Safety

8min

Karina Gould is the youngest and most progressive Liberal voice in the leadership race — and she’s not afraid to stand behind Liberal policies that have had, um, branding issues.

She says the party shouldn’t try to be Conservative-lite.

But will the Liberals listen? Or will they make the same mistake the Democrats made down south?

I ask her that question, and more!

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In this week’s news roundup, we’re talking tariffs, tariffs and more tariffs.

There’s also been a major U.S. Supreme Court decision that is actually…slightly reassuring?

Trump addressed Congress, lied a ton, and the Democrats showed their incompetence.

The world is responding as the U.S. turns on Ukraine.

Attacks on trans folks’ rights in the U.S. are continuing — and not always from the usual suspects.

Finally, the Liberal leadership race will crown its champion on Sunday.

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