Episode #259 Shifting from a Deficit Model with Nic Ponsford
Sep 16, 2024
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Nic Ponsford, founder and CEO of the Global Equality Collective, discusses her journey from teacher to leader in educational data collection. She highlights the necessity of accurate data to enhance inclusion and diversity in schools. The conversation revolves around shifting from a deficit model to one that meets the unique needs of students and staff. Ponsford emphasizes the importance of psychological safety, diverse thinking, and the role of technology in education, including AI and assistive technologies, to create inclusive learning environments.
The Global Equality Collective emphasizes the importance of accurate data collection in education to meet the diverse needs of students and staff.
Shifting from a deficit model to a strengths-based approach allows for a more comprehensive understanding of individual experiences in schools.
Engaging stakeholders through participatory data collection fosters psychological safety and inclusivity, creating a supportive educational environment for all.
Deep dives
Founding the Global Quality Collective
The Global Quality Collective (GEC), founded by Nick Ponsford, serves as a significant initiative to promote inclusion, diversity, and wellbeing within education. With over 400 experts and organizations, it provides resources and a platform to address issues related to hyperdiversity, encompassing various demographic identities, cognitive differences, and socio-economic factors. The GEC aims not only to fulfill legal requirements surrounding equality but also to advocate for a more comprehensive understanding of diverse backgrounds in educational settings. This initiative has already impacted around 220,000 students in over 300 schools across 30 countries.
Innovative Data Collection Methods
The emphasis on collecting reliable data in education is crucial, particularly regarding the lived experiences of students and staff. Traditional methods often neglect the voices of those directly involved in the educational environment due to fear of repercussions or lack of trust. Ponsford advocates for collecting intersectional data that captures a fuller spectrum of experiences, allowing for tailored interventions to meet underserved needs. By using artificial intelligence and other technologies, the GEC seeks to enhance ethical data collection and provide meaningful insights that can drive improvements within schools.
The Role of Student and Staff Voices
Engaging both students and staff in the data collection process has proven essential for creating a supportive educational environment. Ponsford highlights the development of surveys and focus groups that encourage honest feedback, allowing educators to understand the nuanced challenges faced by their community. This participatory approach not only empowers individuals to share their experiences but also creates actionable insights for administrators. The importance of psychological safety is emphasized, as ensuring that everyone feels safe to express their opinions fosters a more inclusive atmosphere.
Redefining Educational Standards
Traditional metrics for assessing educational effectiveness often reduce individuals to mere statistics, ignoring the unique narratives that shape their experiences. By shifting focus from reporting solely on deficits and failures to highlighting individual stories, the GEC aims to cultivate a more holistic understanding of student success. This reframing calls for the recognition of social capital and the connections made within educational environments, ultimately promoting community and support among learners. Addressing these qualitative aspects allows for a richer evaluation of educational practices that can lead to meaningful change.
Embracing Change in Educational Environments
The future of education necessitates an openness to redefining traditional teaching practices and environments. Innovations such as e-sports and AI technologies offer new ways for students to engage with learning that cater to diverse interests and abilities. Ponsford emphasizes the value of flexibility in education, particularly in how schools are structured and how they adapt to the needs of their students. Creating spaces that prioritize psychological safety and inclusivity is essential for fostering a learning culture that values every individual's experience.
In this episode, we interview Nic Ponsford, the founder and CEO of the Global Equality Collective (GEC). We discuss the importance of collecting accurate data in education and how the GEC is using AI to gather intersectional data on inclusion, diversity, and wellbeing in schools. Nic shares her journey from being a teacher to starting the GEC and explains how the GEC platform is helping schools create action plans based on the data collected.
We also discuss the need to shift from a deficit model of data collection to one that focuses on understanding and meeting the underserved needs of students and staff. The conversation explores the importance of creating unique and individual organisations in education that are specific to their context. It emphasises the need to apply ideas and data to the diversity of the organisation, its staff, and its students. The goal is to create a million or a thousand unique and outstanding organisations, rather than scaling up nationally. The conversation also highlights the importance of listening, understanding, and supporting the voices of all stakeholders in education, including staff, students, and the wider community. It emphasises the need for psychological safety, diverse thinking, and positive conflict in order to create a safe and inclusive learning environment. The conversation also touches on the use of technology, such as e-sports and AI, as well as the importance of assistive technologies in education. The biggest inspiration in education is someone who challenges the status quo and dares to be different.
Chapters
00:00 Introductions
03:23 The Importance of Accurate Data Collection in Education
13:21 Using AI to Gather Intersectional Data on Inclusion and Diversity
17:30 Creating Action Plans Based on Data with the GEC Platform
23:51 Shifting from a Deficit Model to Understanding Underserved Needs
29:03 Creating Unique and Individual Organizations
35:27 Changing Relationships with Schools
39:12 Listening and Understanding in Education
43:33 Creating a Safe and Inclusive Learning Environment
46:06 Exploring the Use of Technology in Education
49:35 The Importance of Assistive Technologies
51:30 Inspiration in Education: Challenging the Status Quo
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