Discussion on Trump's potential third indictment, Americans' views on the Jan. 6 attack, exploring the use of the Ku Klux Klan Act in prosecuting Trump, the changing perceptions of Americans, the impact of Trump's trials on the 2024 election, analyzing DeSantis as a GOP frontrunner without Trump, discussing the potential of a popular politician, and the possibility of Pence emerging as an anti-Trump candidate.
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Quick takeaways
Ron DeSantis is well-positioned to take advantage of a potential opening in a more competitive Republican primary.
Ramaswami could gain traction in a chaotic scenario where Trump's legal troubles impact the Republican primary race.
Tim Scott is a strong alternative if Trump were to no longer be a major factor in the Republican primary.
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Jeff chooses Ron DeSantis as a potential candidate in a Trumpless race.
Jeff believes that Ron DeSantis is well-positioned to take advantage of a potential opening in a more competitive Republican primary. DeSantis has strong polling numbers, is well-funded, and has the support of Trump voters. Jeff sees him as a front-runner if Trump were to drop out of the race.
Amelia chooses Vivek Ramaswami as a potential dark horse candidate.
Amelia believes that Ramaswami could gain traction in a chaotic scenario where Trump's legal troubles impact the Republican primary race. She points to his recent rise in polling averages and his promise to pardon Trump as potential factors that could help him capitalize on an open field.
Nathaniel chooses Tim Scott as a potential front-runner in a Trumpless scenario.
Nathaniel sees Tim Scott as a strong alternative if Trump were to no longer be a major factor in the Republican primary. Scott has solid favorability numbers, significant fundraising, and the ability to appeal to a broad base of Republican voters. Nathaniel believes he could capitalize if the primary race becomes more competitive.
Galen chooses Kristi Noem as a potential high-variance candidate.
Galen selects Kristi Noem as a candidate who could thrive in a shake-up scenario where Trump's influence diminishes. Noem's strong conservative credentials, her appeal to culture war issues, and her potential to capture a unique position in the race make her an interesting choice.
Jeff chooses Doug Burgum as a potential high-variance candidate.
Jeff opts for Doug Burgum as a wildcard candidate who could gain traction in a race that becomes more volatile. Burgum's personal wealth, solid campaign spending, and his status as a current governor gives him the potential to make an impact in a wide-open field.
It is widely believed that former President Donald Trump will be indicted for a third time in the coming days or weeks, as he received a target letter from the Department of Justice last week. The potential federal charges involve the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol and attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election leading up to that day.
In this installment of the podcast, the crew discusses what Americans think about Jan. 6, Trump's role in it and whether he ought to be charged. They also draft a 2024 Republican primary lineup, under a hypothetical scenario in which Trump's legal woes catch up to him and the field is thrown open.