S1 Ep.5: “Charity Has Two Functions” with Louisa Jacobson and Thomas Cocquerel
Feb 22, 2022
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Louisa Jacobson and Thomas Cocquerel join the hosts to discuss the roles of men and women during the Gilded Age, the significance of domestic helpers, the dynamics of power and society, and the development of their characters' romantic relationship on the show.
The Gilded Age was characterized by a clear hierarchy among servants, with butlers holding the highest position and overseeing the entire household.
Marion and Tom's relationship in The Gilded Age evolves through their shared intimate moments and conversations, despite facing challenges due to societal obligations and expectations of high society.
The friendship between Marion and Peggy Scott in The Gilded Age grows stronger as they recognize and respect each other's resilience, serving as an opportunity for dialogue about race and friendship in the Gilded Age.
Deep dives
The World of Mansions and Domestic Helpers in the Gilded Age
In this podcast episode, the roles and hierarchy within the mansions of the Gilded Age are explored. The numbers of servants were considered a status symbol, indicating the wealth and size of the house. There was a clear hierarchy among the servants, with upper servants having more personal contact with the family members. The butler held the highest position, overseeing the entire household. The housekeeper played an important role in managing the maids and discussing household matters with the lady of the house. The Russell's had a French chef, while the Van Rynes relied on their housekeeper, Mrs. Bauer, who also served as the cook. The podcast also touches upon the living conditions of the servants, the increasing extravagance of the wealthy, and the connection between the Gilded Age elite and the tenement buildings owned by some of the wealthiest families.
Marion and Tom's Relationship Blossoms
The podcast delves into the evolving relationship between Marion and Tom. Marion is captivated by Tom's kindness and presence in her life, while Tom is drawn to Marion's innocence and resilience. Their connection deepens during their time together in Danzville, where they share intimate moments and conversations. However, challenges arise as Marion grapples with her societal obligations while Tom navigates the expectations of high society and his own motivations. Their relationship is tested, but their genuine affection for each other continues to grow.
The Friendship Between Marion and Peggy Scott
The podcast highlights the friendship between Marion and Peggy Scott. Initially, their encounter is transactional, with Peggy helping Marion by buying her a train ticket. However, their bond grows stronger as Marion recognizes Peggy's independent spirit and resilience. Despite their different backgrounds and societal roles, Marion admires Peggy's determination to forge her own path. Their friendship faces challenges, with Marion's unintentional ignorance of Peggy's struggles as a black woman. Nonetheless, their friendship evolves and serves as an opportunity for dialogue about race and friendship in the Gilded Age.
Filming Locations and Behind-the-Scenes Insights
The podcast gives insights into the filming process, including the challenges and joys of shooting in various locations. Scenes in Central Park and Troy provided opportunities for the cast to immerse themselves in the period setting and transport themselves back in time. The detailed sets and costumes added to the authenticity and helped the actors step into their characters' world. The interviews with the cast members, including Christine Baranski and Cynthia Nixon, reveal their professionalism, talent, and dedication to their craft. The connection and camaraderie among the cast enhanced the overall experience and helped create an engaging and entertaining series.
Additional Podcast Highlights
Other podcast topics include the intricate roles and hierarchy within the mansions, the extravagance and increasing costs of the Gilded Age, the significance of Danzville to the Red Cross, and the evolving social dynamics and societal expectations of the time. The nuances and challenges of filming intimate scenes and navigating social boundaries are also discussed. The podcast offers a deeper understanding of the characters and themes explored in The Gilded Age, providing a captivating companion to the HBO series.
In part one, hosts Alicia Malone (TCM) and Tom Meyers (The Bowery Boys) debrief about the fifth episode of Gilded Age and explore the roles of men and women during the Gilded Age, particularly the “unseen armies” of service workers that staffed the large homes. In part two, they are joined by Louisa Jacobson (Marian Brook) and Thomas Cocoquerel (Tom Raikes) to discuss the development of their character's romantic relationship and their unique story arc.
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