
 The Marketing Book Podcast
 The Marketing Book Podcast 228 Marketing to Mindstates by Will Leach
 May 24, 2019 
 Will Leach, an expert in behavior design and author, discusses groundbreaking marketing strategies that tap into the non-conscious mind. He reveals how traditional marketing fails in today’s complex landscape and emphasizes behavior design to engage consumers effectively. Will uses the Mindstate Behavioral Model to explain how to create emotional connections that drive purchasing decisions. He also shares intriguing case studies, such as the Sun Chips packaging backlash, highlighting the importance of understanding consumer motivations and subconscious reactions. 
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 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8 
 Intro 
 00:00 • 4min 
 Unlocking the Non-Conscious: A New Approach to Consumer Decision-Making 
 04:07 • 4min 
 Navigating VUCA in Marketing 
 07:50 • 8min 
 The Packaging Dilemma: When Good Intentions Go Wrong 
 15:42 • 5min 
 Unlocking Consumer Motivations 
 20:56 • 20min 
 Reframing the Narrative: Engaging Donors through Positive Messaging 
 40:46 • 3min 
 Understanding Cognitive Heuristics in Marketing 
 43:47 • 15min 
 Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Insights 
 58:17 • 2min 

