Solarpunk Presents

8.1: Ariel & Christina Discuss: What History Says About What It Takes to Level Inequality

Sep 8, 2025
Delve into the fascinating argument that catastrophic events, like wars and plagues, have historically reduced inequality. Explore how elite wealth concentration arises and the complex relationship between societal upheaval and leveling forces. The discussion raises pressing questions about climate change's potential role in future inequality. Can true equity be achieved without violence? Discover insights on political obstacles, cultural shifts, and the enduring hope for a more just society despite troubling historical patterns.
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INSIGHT

Leveling Requires Catastrophic Breaks

  • Walter Scheidel argues that only catastrophic violence has historically reduced inequality at scale.
  • Peaceful prosperity consistently lets elites accumulate ever more wealth.
ANECDOTE

Faith In Progressive State Was Shaken

  • Christina recounts how the book shattered her faith in progressive democracy's ability to check elites.
  • She realized progressive governments often fail to stop rising inequality despite good intentions.
ANECDOTE

Personal History Informed Skepticism

  • Ariel shares a family-history shaped skepticism about governments from learning about settler violence and xenophobia.
  • That background made Ariel more ready to distrust state motives than Christina originally was.
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