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E126 | Magic, Aliens & Archetypes w/ Anderson Todd & Tim Adalin

May 9, 2025

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Anderson Todd

In a fascinating discussion, neo-Jungian thinker Anderson Todd, a psychotherapist exploring magic and archetypes, joins Tim Adalin. They delve into the Jungian perspective on UFOs as psychoid manifestations and the importance of participatory inquiry in understanding magic and aliens. Anderson shares vivid stories of psychedelic encounters with entity experiences and explores the ethics surrounding channeling. The duo critically examines the interplay between magic, politics, and societal manipulation, advocating for a more discerning approach to mystical experiences.

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Jung's Psychoid Frame For UFOs

Jung framed UFOs as psychoid manifestations linking psyche and matter through archetypal imagery like wheels of fire.
This suggests anomalous sightings may be expressions of collective symbolic patterns rather than straightforward physical visitors.

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ADVICE

Start With Humility And Multiple Hypotheses

Apply active open-mindedness and deep intellectual humility when investigating anomalies.
Enumerate possible explanations and hold interpretations lightly before drawing conclusions.

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Lunatic-Liar-Lord Screening

Use the medieval lunatic-liar-lord test to screen reports while recognising blurred boundaries with mental states.
High anecdotal mass (many similar reports) makes phenomena worth investigating even without perfect physical evidence.

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Framing Magic and Aliens

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Jungian Psychoid Account of UFOs

02:10 • 5min

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Passivity Versus Participation

07:31 • 5min

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Method for Anomalous Experience

12:38 • 11min

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Explanatory Options for UFOs

23:14 • 5min

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John Keel and Ultra-Terrestrials

28:33 • 4min

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Psychoid, Persinger, and Tectonic Theories

32:54 • 3min

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Value of Anecdotal Mass

36:13 • 10min

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Imaginal vs. Imaginary Distinction

46:19 • 3min

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Channeling, Altered States, and Credibility

48:50 • 4min

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Personal Spider-Entity DMT Story

52:20 • 7min

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Historical Channeling: John Dee to Crowley

58:53 • 6min

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Ethics, Authority, and Storytelling

01:04:41 • 8min

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Visionary Content vs. Process

01:13:00 • 19min

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DMT Breakthrough Phenomenology

01:32:11 • 11min

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Practical Litmus: What Did You Bring Back?

01:43:10 • 9min

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Extended DMT, Symbolic 'Light Language'

01:52:07 • 6min

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Defining Magic: Reliability and Application

01:58:27 • 7min

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Ayahuasca 'Duh' Moment

02:05:48 • 7min

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Danger of Partial Initiation

02:12:42 • 11min

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Politics, Disgust, and Symbolic Manipulation

02:23:57 • 8min

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A philosophical exploration into the weird of magic, aliens and altered states with the neo-Jungian thinker, psychotherapist and baby wizard, neo-Jungian Anderson Todd and Tim Adalin.

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Timestamps

00:02 - Introduction

02:20 - Jungian Perspective on UFOs & the Psychoid

09:00 - How do we participate in understanding magic and aliens

22:00 - Frameworks for understanding anomalous phenomena

48:56 - Psychedelic Entity Encounters

01:00:21 - Channeling and Historical Magic

01:37:56 - DMT Experiences and Entity Encounters

01:40:37 - Certainty vs. Skepticism in Mystical Experiences

01:43:19 - Magic as Experimental Psychotechnology

01:48:22 - Re-enchantment and Ethical Transformation

02:08:46 - Ayahuasca and the Mythic "Duh" Moment

02:27:39 - Symbolic Manipulation and Propaganda

02:37:36 - Pluralism and Communication

Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0

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