Surfing legend Jamie O'Brien chats to host Lisa about taking calculated risks, why the flow state is so important to him and how he carries on his legacy and love for surfing. Do you have feedback or want to chat? Please reach out to us under mindsetwin@redbull.com or directly to Lisa on Instagram at @lisa_ramuschkat. Do you want to read about the topics we talk about in this podcast? Read more here Mind Set Win: Discover the keys to a winning mindset (redbull.com).  This season, you can watch us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@redbullmindsetwin