Intelligence Tricks, from Covert to Overt Covert Ops
Feb 25, 2023
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Loch Johnson, intelligence expert and former aide to the Church Committee, discusses oversight of intel agencies, political weaponization of intel, lack of oversight in the CIA's torture program, impact of polarization on intelligence oversight, existence of the 'deep state', flawed intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, and CIA satellites' role in environmental monitoring.
Covert action involves propaganda, political covert action, economic covert action, and paramilitary operations and plays a vital role in shaping perceptions and countering propaganda.
Effective intelligence oversight requires a balance between accountability and avoiding excessive intrusion, with the need for fact-finding inquiries to prevent politically motivated investigations and ensure thorough and unbiased assessments.
Deep dives
Covert Action: The Hidden Side of American Foreign Policy
Covert action, as defined by intelligence historian Locke Johnson, is the hidden side of American foreign policy. It involves four packages of activities: propaganda, political covert action, economic covert action, and paramilitary operations. Propaganda aims to shape perceptions of the United States and its policies through various channels, including hiring media assets to spread the American viewpoint. Political covert action involves providing financial support to political candidates favorable to US interests. Economic covert action may involve sabotage, counterfeiting, or other disruptive activities to destabilize an enemy nation's economy. The most extreme form is paramilitary operations, which can involve assassination plots and supporting groups to overthrow hostile regimes. While some covert actions remain secret, Johnson believes that honest efforts, such as supporting Ukraine in its conflict against Russia, can be crucial in exposing the truth and countering propaganda.
Oversight of Covert Action: Striking a Balance and Learning from the Past
The issue of oversight arises in the context of covert action. While intelligence agencies serve the President and Congress, there is a need for effective oversight to prevent abuses. Johnson reflects on the evolution of intelligence oversight, from limited accountability pre-1975 to the Church Committee investigations in response to CIA misdeeds. He underscores the importance of accountability and avoiding micromanagement. However, he also cautions against excessive intrusion, emphasizing the need for informed fact-finding inquiries rather than politically motivated investigations. Johnson acknowledges that intelligence failures, such as the flawed intelligence leading to the Iraq War, highlight the necessity of thorough and unbiased assessments. He discusses the complexities of intelligence accuracy, the dangers of rushing to judgment, and the challenge of predicting the repercussions of covert actions.
Intelligence and Polarized Politics: Navigating Challenges and Threats
The current state of polarized American politics poses risks to intelligence oversight. Johnson traces the rise of polarization and its impact on intelligence operations, highlighting the need for a balanced approach. The increasingly shrill and divisive political environment raises concerns about the objectivity of inquiries and the role of politics in intelligence decision-making. Johnson emphasizes the importance of keeping intelligence above politics and relying on evidence-based assessments. He expresses apprehension that polarization could hinder effective oversight and urges caution in navigating the geopolitical challenges, including the struggle with Russia and escalating tensions with China. Johnson stresses the critical role of intelligence in providing transparency, facilitating effective decision-making, and avoiding unnecessary conflicts.
The Role of Intelligence in Contemporary Conflicts: Ukraine and Beyond
The podcast conversation touches on the role of intelligence in the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Johnson suggests that US intelligence likely plays a significant behind-the-scenes role by providing valuable information and aiding Ukrainian forces with pinpoint precision strikes. He references the use of intelligence to expose Russian intentions and the public sharing of intelligence on China's alleged intent to supply weapons to Russia. Johnson acknowledges the dangers inherent in the current geopolitical landscape, underscores the significance of transparent and accurate intelligence, and highlights the need to balance defensive measures with factual and reasoned assessments to maintain stability in an increasingly precarious global environment.
Political scientist, author, and senior aide to the chair of the Church Committee Loch Johnson joins Jeff to talk about oversight of intel agencies; the political weaponization of intel; and more.