In this episode I chat with poet and writer Vanessa Kisuule about poetry, building a creative career and expectations audiences have of us on stage, online and in print. Vanessa's website is here: https://www.vanessakisuule.com/ And you can follow her on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/vanessa_kisuule If you'd like to support the show, drop me a few beans here: www.ko-fi.com/timclare