

Arrested For Posts, Epstein Victims Speak, and Sick Trump Health Reactions, with Batya Ungar-Sargon and Greg Lukianoff
41 snips Sep 3, 2025
Batya Ungar-Sargon, a NewsNation host and author, joins the conversation along with Greg Lukianoff, author of "The War on Words." They discuss the troubling implications of criminalizing speech, as seen in a recent UK comedian's arrest. The duo also analyzes the fallout from allegations against Jeffrey Epstein, including the victims’ plans for accountability. Batya critiques media reactions to Trump’s health and how rising crime affects public perception. Together, they explore the erosion of the American Dream and the impact of political ideologies on the working class.
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EU Rules Can Reach US Speech
- European laws like the EU Digital Services Act can force US platforms to remove content globally by labeling speech 'harmful.'
- Greg Lukianoff warns this extraterritorial regulation threatens American free speech protections and corporate policies.
UK's Speech Crackdown Signals A Trend
- The UK is increasingly criminalizing offensive online speech and private protest actions according to examples in the show.
- Lukianoff and Kelly say this marks a broader free-speech crisis across the UK, EU, Canada, and Australia.
Public Figures Admit They Were Cowed
- Malcolm Gladwell admitted he was cowed in 2022 and now believes trans women should not compete in women's sports.
- Kelly and Lukianoff use this to illustrate how social pressure silences honest debate.