The Myth of Climate Apocalypse with Michael Shellenberger [S2 Ep.18]

Jun 12, 2021

Michael Shellenberger, a journalist and environmental activist recognized by Time as a 'Hero of the Environment,' dives into the myth of climate apocalypse. He challenges prevalent narratives about climate change and poverty, arguing that industrialization is essential for developing nations. Discussing the role of nuclear energy, he presents it as a viable solution for carbon emission reduction. The conversation also critiques alarmist environmental strategies and explores the implications of climate policies on global poverty, advocating for a balanced approach to sustainability.

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Intro

00:00 • 3min

Rethinking Environmental Challenges

02:44 • 23min

The Crucial Role of Nuclear Energy in Emission Reduction

25:23 • 5min

Exploring the Viability of Carbon Capture and Alternative Energy Solutions

30:22 • 4min

Balancing Energy and Innovation

34:46 • 7min

Rethinking Extinction Narratives

42:11 • 14min

Exploring the Intersection of Climate Policy and Global Poverty

55:47 • 5min

I'm pleased to announce that supporters of the show will be able to interact with me through text messages. If you are considering joining our community, you can sign up at colemanhughes.org/ Today's guest is Michael Shellenberger. Michael is a journalist, author, environmental activist and was dubbed ‘Hero of the Environment’ by Time Magazine. He's the Founder and President of Environmental Progress, a nonprofit dedicated to eradicating poverty and saving the natural environment. He's co-written and written a number of books, including An Ecomodernist Manifesto, and Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All, which is the topic of today's conversation.

We talked about the trade-off between reducing global carbon emissions and allowing third world countries to industrialize, how civilization would adjust to rising sea levels, whether climate change would lead to military conflict over scarce resources, the claim that we have to cut carbon emissions in half in the next decade, the importance of nuclear energy, cryptocurrency and its environmental consequences, are humans causing a mass extinction, is banning plastic bags a good policy, and much more.

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