Humans have been passing down stories to each other for as long as we possibly could. Before we try a new restaurant, we see what others have experienced there. We look at reviews of products, schools, and businesses before we venture further with them. In fact, much of what we know about the world doesn't come from personal experience at all - but the stories we've been told about it.

Today's culture can make it difficult to communicate well across generational lines. Something we seem to be losing in our current polarized society is the value we place on the wisdom of our elders. While it is incredibly important to challenge the harmful patterns of the past, humans will never stop needing to hear from those who came before us - just like when we travel to a new place.

Our guest for this episode is Pastor José Rojas, who has spent nearly 50 years in Christian ministry and has served as an advisor to multiple US presidents. He helped develop and implement a variety of humanitarian programs including working alongside General Colin Powell to launch America's Promise Alliance in 1997, which established 70 tutoring centers for underprivileged children across the United States.

In this episode we ask the question: how can we work with our elders when we seem to disagree on so much?