Ep 224: Jonathan Pokluda: An Exorcism in Aspen

Jonathan Pokluda sits down with Levi and Jennie for a conversation that’s equal parts laugh-out-loud and deeply grounding. JP unpacks his 16-day hospital saga—how it started with a leg not working right, turned into a diagnosis of transverse myelitis, and somehow included an unforgettable “marriage moment” that belongs in the Hall of Fame.

From spiritual warfare to being aware without being afraid, and what JP learned while researching Your Story Has a Villain—including the country club moment in Aspen that made everything feel painfully real. Plus: Halloween, discernment, and even the surprisingly practical question of how to use AI as a tool without letting it use you—followed by a closing story about a cold plunge that… never actually happened.

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Time Stamps

0:01:43 – Six-toed cats and the weird grace of being “different”

0:03:24 – JP’s 16-day hospital scare and the symptoms that changed everything

0:16:54 – Real marriage: praying fire for a bowel movement

0:23:20 – Why JP wrote Your Story Has a Villain

0:28:49 – The Aspen Country Club story that made spiritual warfare unmistakable

0:44:06 – Loving God “on purpose,” AI guardrails, and using tools wisely