In this week's episode, Imran and David host Katia Babbar and William McGhee the co-founders of Immersive Finance. They discuss how they are meeting the needs of institutional players in the crypto space in terms of rich, granular data sets and detailed risk management capabilities after many decades in traditional finance on the FX side. Katia also explains that they want to cater for the growing crypto-structured products market where banks will ultimately be the front runners and need top-tier systems to be able to manage more complex and dynamic risks. David gives his macro rundown and Imran discusses how hedges paid off last week and why he was monetizing some, especially on ETH.