Wild with Sarah Wilson

VANESSA ANDREOTTI: And now we have hospice modernity…(and a goodbye from Wild)

Dec 3, 2024

Vanessa Andreotti, a Brazilian academic and Dean of the Faculty of Education at the University of Victoria, passionately discusses how modernity is akin to an 'adolescent' civilization. She advocates for Indigenous wisdom to guide humanity through crises, asserting that the West often waits until catastrophe strikes to take action. Vanessa explores the emotional processing necessary for communal healing and emphasizes the importance of 'black belt aunties' in navigating resilience. Their conversation blends reflections on loss and hope, inviting listeners to celebrate human connections even amidst chaos.

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Dr. Vanessa Andreotti emphasizes the need to adopt a hospice-like approach to support the decline of modernity while nurturing new systems.

The podcast highlights the importance of accepting collective pain through communal practices, inspired by traditional Indigenous rituals for healing.

Indigenous wisdom and the concept of entanglement advocate for recognizing our interconnectedness, promoting gratitude and shared responsibility for all life.

Deep dives

Transitioning from Modernity

The concept of modernity is framed as a deteriorating structure in society that is fundamentally flawed. It is portrayed as a house built on a weak foundation of separation between humans and nature, with the illusion of infinite growth on a finite planet leading to existential crises. The invitation is to not only acknowledge modernity’s demise but to actively support its transition by adopting a hospice-like approach, providing care as it crumbles. This process involves recognizing the necessity to use remaining resources wisely while prioritizing the well-being of humanity over the outdated models entrenched in modernity.

Intro

2min

Embracing Collective Pain

7min

Hospicing Modernity: Navigating Disconnection and Change

20min

Bridging Worlds: Learning from Indigenous Wisdom

3min

Mindset and Heritage Reconciliation

5min

Navigating Pain and Resilience

12min

Interconnected Responsibilities

15min

Reflections on Loss and Celebration in Modernity

5min

Dr Vanessa Andreotti (Indigenous Knowledge advocate; author) is a Brazilian academic who has developed a radical thesis for how to move through the multi-crises we face. In her book Hospicing Modernity: Facing Humanity's Wrongs and the Implications for Social Activism she draws on Indigenous wisdoms and entanglement theory to steer humanity through the destruction, grief and uncertainty as democracy, the growth model, “the West” crumbles around us.

Dr Andreotti is the Dean of the Faculty of Education at the University of Victoria, Canada where she is also one of the designers of the Facing Human Wrongs: Climate Complexity and Relational Accountability course. She has written 100-plus papers on climate education, global justice and race.

In this chat – the last in the current Wild series – she talks through how modernity is the most “adolescent” civilisation in history, how Indigenous cultures have the knowledge to assist us, how the West won’t act until “the water is up to their bum” and the value of “black belt aunties”.

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