On this episode: Zak Rosen interviews Erin Williams of the Detroit Urban Forest School about how her work brings kids from different backgrounds together – all in the name of appreciating the great outdoors.

Then, Jamilah Lemieux and Elizabeth Newcamp share some tips for wrangling some of the trickier treats that come with parenting during Halloween. And, as always, we end with a round of recommendations.

Elizabeth recommends: LectroFan Portable Sound Machine

Jamilah recommends: The Golden Bachelor

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