"Michael, at one point, I had to forgive all of 1974..." said Katharine Giovanni.

As we move through our lives, we collect big and small negative experiences that, if left unresolved, calcify into how we interact with and view the world. Abuse. Neglect. Betrayal. Rejection. Nobody arrives into adulthood without at least a short list of items that could use the emotional freedom that comes with forgiveness. Blah blah blah, right? Easier said than done!

Enter Katharine Giovanni.

Katharine is a three-time award-winning best-selling author of twelve books. She’s also a speaker, trainer, an advisor. And a proud breast cancer survivor. Her latest work, "The Ultimate Path to Forgiveness: Unlocking Your Power," offers profound insights into forgiveness.

Katharine started forgiving people out of desperation. She made a list of offenders, including people, places, things, even years, whatever she could think of, and ranked them from 1-10. #10 being the most egregious offenders.

"Not everything is forgivable, and it's important to give people the right never to forgive. You have to be ready.", says Katharine

As Katharine was on her journey of forgiveness, she created the Forgiveness Matrix, a model for starting and practicing forgiveness. Most importantly, this journey is not for anyone else but you. Katharine suggests starting with the #1s and #2s and working up to the #10s. She says, "...maybe one day you will reduce them to a #5, and that's just fine."

I loved this conversation with Katharine. It was fun, profound, and insightful in a way I didn't expect. I hope you enjoy it.

You can find Katharine and all of her work here: https://katharinegiovanni.com/

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