Unseen Leadership Episode 31: Joshua Gagnon on Pursuing Dreams in a Godly Way

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Joshua Gagnon who is the founding and Lead Pastor of Next Level Church, which is one of the fastest growing churches in America and the author of his new book It’s Not Over. During their conversation, they discuss how to leading by asking good questions, building culture, and pursuing your dreams in a Godly way. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 31: “No one wants to listen to a young leader full of pride or thinks they know it all. They want to listen to a young leader who is submitted and full of honor.” “Older leaders don’t mind young leaders who ask good questions that lead to better results.” “I wanted to start a church where my friends would want to go.” “I had to learn to lead like a father rather than a brother.” “Emotions in the moment compromise the integrity you want to walk with.” “We have to be prepared to lead the moment, and often times we have not prepared our hearts to lead the moments we are stepping into.” “Leadership breaks down when we are not prepared to lead in a specific moment.” “If I’m moving the ball forward in an organization but not developing leaders for forward movement, that is going to create a lot of tension and roadblocks.” “Wait until the morning to handle conflict and make big decisions.” “Culture is what matters. Everyone talks about vision. But everybody has a vision. Tell me about the culture that supports the vision, and I’ll tell you if your vision is going to amount to anything.” “We often expect way too much out of the immediate and not enough over the ultimate.” “God will be fruitful. Our job is to be faithful at taking each piece in each season so that someday we’ll see our dream fulfilled.” “The fake me might get me further for the short term, but the real me will take me further over the course of a lifetime. I want to be real and allow people to get scary close.” RESOURCES MENTIONED It’s Not Over by Joshua Gagnon Red Zone, Blue Zone by James Osterhaus, Joseph Jurkowski, and Todd Hahn Tale of Three Kings by Gene Edwards Scary Close by Donald Miller For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.