Former Ukrainian Foreign Minister on the Tensions Between Washington and Kyiv
Mar 10, 2025
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Dmytro Kuleba, the former Ukrainian Foreign Minister, discusses the fallout from the U.S. pausing military aid to Ukraine. He shares Kyiv's concerns about America's reliability in support amid ongoing Russian threats. The conversation also dives into Europe's capacity to step up and fill the support void. Additionally, Kuleba emphasizes Ukraine's urgent defense needs as geopolitical tensions evolve, raising questions about the shifting balance of power and the implications for international alliances.
Ukrainian officials express both frustration and unity as they confront the potential long-term impacts of paused U.S. military aid.
The next German chancellor's push for Europe's independence in defense highlights a notable shift in geopolitical dynamics away from U.S. reliance.
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The Changing Dynamics of U.S.-Ukraine Relations
Recent developments in U.S. policy toward Ukraine have raised concerns about the future of military aid and intelligence sharing. Ukrainian officials express mixed feelings, including frustration and a sense of abandonment, but are also rallying around national pride and unity. The pause in American support may not show immediate impacts, but experts warn that over time, the absence of intelligence and military supplies will hinder Ukraine's defense capabilities against Russia. This shift prompts Ukraine to seek alternative forms of support from Europe and rethink its military strategy.
Shifting European Policy in Response to U.S. Indifference
The potential future leadership of Germany reflects a growing sentiment within Europe to become independent from U.S. influence. The incoming chancellor has articulated a strong desire to strengthen Europe and ensure its self-sufficiency in defense matters. This marks a significant departure from the traditional reliance on American security guarantees, highlighting a seismic shift in geopolitical dynamics. As European nations contemplate their security strategy, the prospect of developing autonomous military capabilities becomes increasingly urgent.
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Today on the show, Fareed speaks with former Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba about the response in Kyiv as the US has decided to pause military aid and intelligence following last week’s Oval Office showdown between Presidents Trump and Zelensky, and whether Europe will be able to fill the void.
Next, senior writer for the New York Times Katrin Bennhold joins the show to discuss the likely next chancellor of Germany’s striking remarks that he wants to strengthen Europe’s defenses and achieve independence from the United States. Will the rest of Europe follow?
Finally, Fareed talks with Dartmouth economics professor Douglas Irwin about how President Trump’s proposed tariffs stack up against history.
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