You may well have heard the rumours that motherhood can be pretty hard work at times. Guess what... the rumours are true. In this week's Chops, Jen chats to two excellent writers, Saima Mir and Mimi Aye, both contributors to the book, The Best Most Awful Job: Twenty Writers Talk Honestly About Motherhood.

Jen and Saima talk about maternal rage, expectations of motherhood vs reality, and Petit Filous absolutely everywhere. And she chats with Mimi about the experience and pain of being othered - and watching your children being othered - in your own country.

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SIM Ep 537 Chops 220: The Best Most Awful Job