Former Home Secretary Suella Braverman engages in a light-hearted and informal conversation on various topics. They discuss the need for clarity and a timetable for Theresa May's departure, debunk misconceptions surrounding the European Research Group, and their passion for domestic issues and education. They also touch on reactions to Brexit, cooking tips for spaghetti bolognese, driving skills, and their conservative political beliefs. The episode ends with a humorous conversation about a potential alternative to a hard border and promotion of ad-free listening on Amazon Music.
The urgency of delivering Brexit and the need for a clear timeline for the Prime Minister's departure to address frustrations and restore public trust.
The importance of a new leader who can bring clarity, unity, and effectively address the challenges faced by Conservative MPs regarding Brexit.
Concerns about the growing culture of political correctness and the need to uphold democratic values and freedoms while differentiating between reasonable discourse and extreme views.
Deep dives
The importance of delivering Brexit and the need for clarity on Theresa May's departure
In this podcast episode, the guest, Sir LaBraveman, emphasizes the urgency of delivering Brexit and calls for Prime Minister Theresa May to provide a clear timeline for her departure. She asserts that the failure to deliver Brexit has caused frustration, anxiety, and a decline in public trust. Sir LaBraveman believes that a new leader is needed to provide clarity, end the uncertainty, and address the concerns of businesses and voters.
The challenges faced by Conservative MPs with differing views on Brexit
The podcast discusses the difficulties faced by Conservative MPs who hold different views on Brexit. Sir LaBraveman acknowledges the division within the party and the challenges of supporting a Conservative Prime Minister while hoping for a leadership change. She expresses her respect for Theresa May's efforts, but also highlights the increasing impatience among voters and businesses due to the failure to deliver Brexit. Sir LaBraveman emphasizes the need for a new leader who can effectively address these challenges and bring clarity and unity to the party.
The discussion on culture, political correctness, and freedom of speech
The podcast touches on the issue of political correctness, freedom of speech, and the impact of language in political discourse. Sir LaBraveman expresses concern about the growing culture of sensitivity and the curbing of freedom of speech. She believes that this trend is more prevalent on the left, citing instances of no-platforming and the clamping down of free speech. Sir LaBraveman argues for the importance of open debate, the challenging of the status quo, and the need to uphold democratic values and freedoms while acknowledging the responsibility to differentiate between reasonable discourse and extreme views.
The Importance of Leaving the European Union
Leaving the EU would enable more trade and exports to grow, and benefit future generations. While there are concerns about the political implications of leaving and the potential opposition to immigration, Brexit does not sever political alliances and the UK can still maintain strong relationships with other countries. Leaving the EU presents an opportunity to have more control over regulations and inject more accountability to UK politicians. Despite personal emotional connections to Europe, leaving the EU does not mean leaving Europe.
Challenges and Resilience in the Brexit Process
The current Brexit process is filled with disappointment, frustration, and uncertainty. The ERG meetings, while expressing support and camaraderie, reflect a sense of sadness and a desire to fulfill the promises made during the referendum. There is a belief that the UK can overcome any economic challenges that may arise from a no-deal Brexit, highlighting the potential benefits of trade deficit windfalls and deregulation. The focus should shift to addressing issues that matter to the younger generation, such as mental health provision, vocational training, and home ownership, to prevent the disengagement of young people from the Conservative Party.
This was recorded in 2019 long before Suella became Home Secretary. She’s more informal here than you might expect and shows a side to her personality you don’t see in public.