Author Michael Lloyd, explores Christian responses to evil and suffering, including the doctrine of the fall, compatibility with evolution, and the possibility of a fall of angelic beings. The podcast discusses theories on suffering, human and angelic falls, and the interplay between human responsibility and external influences.
Rejecting the justification of suffering for a greater good, the speaker emphasizes God's opposition to suffering through Jesus's healing ministry.
The introduction of the angelic fall hypothesis offers a nuanced perspective on the origin of evil and suffering in alignment with God's original plan.
Deep dives
The Problem of Evil and Response to Suffering
The podcast discusses the problem of evil and suffering, emphasizing the speaker's critical view of theologians justifying suffering. The speaker argues against the notion that suffering serves a greater good, highlighting Jesus's healing ministry as evidence of God's opposition to suffering. By rejecting the idea that suffering is intended or justified by God, the speaker addresses the challenge of evil in a theological context.
Fall of Angels Hypothesis
The episode delves into the fall of angels hypothesis as a response to the problem of evil, proposing that angelic rebellion distorted God's original harmonious plan for creation. Drawing from Jewish-Christian tradition, the speaker suggests that this distortion led to conflict, disease, and death, contrary to God's intentions. By introducing the concept of an angelic fall, the speaker offers a perspective that aligns with the healing ministry of Jesus and presents a nuanced understanding of suffering.
Doctrine of the Fall
The podcast explores the doctrine of the fall, highlighting the gap between the world's current state and God's original purpose. The discussion covers the association of fallenness with the fall of humanity and angels, suggesting scriptural support for a disrupted creation. The speaker defends the doctrine against skepticism post-Darwin and argues for its relevance in understanding the origins of suffering and the restoration of God's intended harmony.
Rev Dr Michael Lloyd, author of Cafe Theology, explores a number of Christian responses to evil and suffering. Which theories are the most intellectually, emotionally and pastorally consistent and satisfying? We also look at the doctrine of the fall. Why is it significant? Is it compatible with evolution? Was there a fall of angelic beings as well as humanity?
For Michael Lloyd: https://www.wycliffe.ox.ac.uk/people/revd-dr-michael-lloyd-0
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