
The Literary Life Podcast Episode 303: Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" Ch. 8-13
Nov 18, 2025
Ella Hornstra, a passionate teacher and guest participant, shares her insights on Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World,' focusing on its deep connections to Shakespeare. They explore satire and parody as transformative literary elements, particularly linking John the Savage to Shakespearean figures like Caliban. Hornstra discusses John's struggle with concepts of pain and atonement, contrasting it with the hedonistic World State. The conversation shines a light on censorship, the manipulation of culture, and how Huxley's work critiques societal values through literary parallels.
01:36:52
Read Beyond Surface Parallels
- When reading satire, avoid stopping at surface parallels to current life.
- Instead, analyze literary form and parody to reach the book's deeper meaning.
Parody As A Puzzle That Rightens Us
- Parody flips an upside-down world so the sane character looks mad while revealing deeper truth.
- Angelina urges readers to assemble the puzzle rather than dismiss parody as nihilism.
Nabokov Traveled With Butterflies
- Thomas shares that Nabokov traveled with a butterfly collection, a quirky biographical detail.
- The hosts use such anecdotes to humanize authors and amuse listeners.
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Intro
00:00 • 5min
Commonplace Quotes and Reading Goals
05:04 • 12min
What Is Parody Versus Satire?
16:46 • 5min
How Parody Flips the World Right Side Up
22:02 • 7min
How John the Savage Reflects Shakespearean Roles
28:36 • 5min
Chapter Eight: John's Childhood and Shakespeare
33:25 • 9min
Pottery, Ritual, and the Reservation's Myths
42:48 • 4min
What Does John Discover on the Mesa?
47:16 • 3min
Why John Seeks Pain and Atonement
49:51 • 1min
What Does 'Oh brave new world' Mean Here?
50:55 • 1min
Chapter Nine: Lenina, Soma, and Bernard's Scheme
52:13 • 4min
Chapter Ten: Public Condemnation and Religious Parody
56:26 • 2min
Linda's Return and Celebrity Shock
58:20 • 2min
How Celebrity and Soma Reveal Values
01:00:11 • 2min
Meeting Mustafa Mond: The Soul Versus Happiness
01:02:23 • 1min
How the World Laughs at Ritual and Literature
01:03:52 • 2min
Feely Parody of Othello and Public Entertainment
01:05:52 • 6min
Chapter Twelve: Bernard's Jealousy and John's Rejection
01:11:50 • 2min
What Is the Maiden Trial Folktale's Role?
01:13:26 • 3min
Chapter Thirteen: Passion, Delay, and Cultural Conflict
01:16:09 • 38sec
Why Mustafa Mond Censors Purposeful Thought
01:16:48 • 2min
How Helmholtz and John Bond Over Literature
01:19:08 • 2min
Why The Phoenix and the Turtle Matters Here
01:21:06 • 2min
How Shakespeare Counters the Machine
01:23:18 • 6min
How Telephone Interruptions Defuse Tragedy
01:29:34 • 1min
Alice in Wonderland Echoes and Cultural Idioms
01:30:56 • 52sec
Outro
01:31:48 • 5min

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The tempest

William Shakespeare
The Tempest, written around 1610-1611, is one of Shakespeare's last solo works.
The play revolves around Prospero, the former Duke of Milan, who was usurped by his brother Antonio and left to die at sea with his infant daughter Miranda.
They survive and find refuge on a remote island, where Prospero masters magic and enslaves the native Caliban and the spirit Ariel.
When a ship carrying his enemies passes by, Prospero conjures a tempest to bring them ashore.
The play explores themes of magic, betrayal, revenge, and forgiveness as Prospero manipulates the shipwrecked characters to rectify past wrongs and ultimately forgives them.
The story also includes the romance between Ferdinand, the King of Naples' son, and Miranda, and ends with Prospero's decision to return to Milan and reclaim his dukedom.

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King Lear

William Shakespeare
King Lear, written by William Shakespeare around 1604-1606, is a tragedy that follows the story of King Lear, who decides to retire and divide his kingdom among his three daughters: Goneril, Regan, and Cordelia.
The division is based on the eloquence of their declarations of love for him.
However, Lear's youngest and favorite daughter, Cordelia, refuses to flatter him and is disinherited.
The play unfolds with Lear's descent into madness, the betrayal by his elder daughters, and the subplot involving the Earl of Gloucester and his sons.
Ultimately, the play ends in tragedy with the deaths of Lear, Cordelia, and several other main characters, highlighting themes of deception, power, and the consequences of poor judgment.
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Anatomy of criticism


Northrop Frye
Northrop Frye's 'Anatomy of Criticism' is a seminal work of literary theory that revolutionized the way critics approach literature.
Frye's archetypal criticism emphasizes the recurring patterns and symbols found across different literary works.
He proposes a comprehensive system for understanding literature, organizing it into various modes and genres.
His work emphasizes the interconnectedness of literary texts and the importance of understanding their historical and cultural contexts.
Frye's insights continue to influence literary studies and provide a framework for interpreting the deeper meanings and structures within literature.

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Othello
The Tragedy of Othello, the Moor of Venice

William Shakespeare
Written around 1603, 'Othello' is a tragedy that delves into the destructive nature of jealousy and the vulnerability of trust in relationships.
The play follows Othello, a Moorish general in the Venetian army, whose marriage to Desdemona is manipulated by his ensign Iago, leading to tragic consequences.
Iago exploits Othello’s insecurities about his race and marriage, sowing seeds of doubt that ultimately result in the death of Desdemona and Othello's own downfall.
The play is renowned for its exploration of racial and cultural issues, as well as its nuanced portrayal of human nature and the complexities of love and trust.

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The Phoenix and the Turtle

William Shakespeare
"The Phoenix and the Turtle" is an allegorical poem that explores themes of love, fidelity, and the transcendence of earthly existence through the symbolic union of a phoenix and a turtle dove.
Shakespeare delves into philosophical ideas about oneness and duality, portraying the merging of two distinct entities into a single, harmonious whole.
The poem reflects on the nature of perfection and the inexpressible qualities of true love, suggesting that such profound unity surpasses conventional understanding.
Through its complex symbolism and metaphysical conceits, the poem contemplates the mysteries of existence and the elusive nature of ideal relationships.
It remains a subject of scholarly debate, celebrated for its intricate language and profound exploration of love and unity.

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Twelfth Night

William Shakespeare
Shakespeare's 'Twelfth Night' is a comedy exploring themes of love, mistaken identity, and disguise.
The play centers on the twins Viola and Sebastian, who are separated in a shipwreck.
Viola disguises herself as a man and falls in love with Orsino, while Sebastian is mistaken for Viola by Olivia.
The play's witty dialogue and intricate plot twists create a delightful and engaging experience.
'Twelfth Night' is a celebration of love's complexities and the humorous consequences of mistaken identity.

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Hamlet

William Shakespeare
The play revolves around Prince Hamlet's journey to avenge his father's murder, which was committed by his uncle Claudius.
Hamlet's father's ghost appears and reveals that he was poisoned by Claudius, who then married Hamlet's mother, Gertrude.
Hamlet feigns madness while he investigates and plots his revenge.
The play explores themes of betrayal, mortality, and the human condition, culminating in a tragic finale where nearly all main characters die, including Hamlet, Claudius, Gertrude, and several others.

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Race Against the Machine

Andrew McAfee

Erik Brynjolfsson

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• Mentioned in 52 episodes
Alice in Wonderland

Lewis Carroll
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Point Counter Point

Aldous Huxley
A satirical novel exploring themes of love, art, and philosophy through the lives of diverse characters in 1920s England.

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• Mentioned in 17 episodes
Symposium


Plato
The Symposium is a philosophical dialogue written by Plato around 370 BCE. It depicts a friendly contest of extemporaneous speeches given by a group of notable Athenian men, including Socrates, Alcibiades, and Aristophanes, in praise of Eros, the god of love.
The dialogue is structured as a series of speeches, each developing the ideas of the previous one, and culminates in Socrates' speech, which recounts his conversation with the wise woman Diotima.
The work explores various aspects of love, including its benefits, its connection to philosophy, and its role in human happiness.
The setting is a banquet at the house of the tragedian Agathon, where the men engage in drinking and conversation, leading to heartfelt and noble speeches about love.

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Troilus and Cressida

William Shakespeare
The play revolves around the doomed love affair between Troilus, a Trojan prince, and Cressida, a Trojan woman whose father has defected to the Greeks.
Despite their vows of fidelity, Cressida is traded to the Greek camp and eventually betrays Troilus by accepting the attentions of Diomedes.
The play also delves into the broader context of the Trojan War, highlighting the cynicism, lack of heroism, and moral disintegration on both sides.
It is known for its dark and often cynical exploration of human nature and the consequences of war.

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The Complete Works
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Michel de Montaigne
Michel de Montaigne's "Essays" are a collection of personal reflections on a wide range of topics, including life, death, friendship, and self-knowledge.
Written in the 16th century, these essays are remarkable for their honesty, introspection, and intellectual depth.
Montaigne's willingness to share his vulnerabilities and doubts makes his work relatable and engaging even centuries later.
His essays are characterized by their digressive style and their exploration of the complexities of human experience.
The "Essays" remain a cornerstone of Western literature, offering timeless insights into the human condition.

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Macbeth


Imdad Hussain

William Shakespeare
Macbeth is a tragedy that explores themes of power, ambition, and the consequences of sin.
The play follows Macbeth, a Scottish nobleman, and his wife Lady Macbeth as they navigate a complex web of prophecy, murder, and political intrigue.
The witches' prophecy sets off a chain of events that leads to the downfall of Macbeth and the restoration of order in Scotland.
The play is known for its dark and haunting atmosphere, its exploration of the human psyche, and its commentary on the nature of tragedy and the human condition.

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Voyage of the Dawn Treader


C.S. Lewis
In this adventure, Lucy, Edmund, and their cousin Eustace are transported back to Narnia, where they join Prince Caspian on his ship, the Dawn Treader.
Their journey takes them to various islands, each with its own unique challenges and wonders.
Along the way, they encounter a sea serpent, an island where anything turns to gold, and a mysterious Dark Island.
Eustace's transformation into a dragon and his subsequent redemption are pivotal moments in the story.
The crew's quest to find the seven lost lords and reach the edge of the world is filled with trials, temptations, and the guidance of the lion Aslan.

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Letters


Samuel Rutherford

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Brave New World

Aldous Huxley
Written in 1931 and published in 1932, 'Brave New World' is a dystopian novel set in a futuristic World State where humans are bred in vitro and predestined into a rigid social hierarchy.
The novel explores themes of technological advancement, social conditioning, and the loss of individuality and freedom.
The story revolves around characters such as Bernard Marx, an Alpha who questions the society, Mustapha Mond, the World Controller, and John, a 'Savage' from a reservation who introduces elements of emotion and individuality into the highly controlled World State.
The novel critiques the optimism of technological progress and its potential to create a society that values stability and happiness over humanity and freedom.

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Romeo and Juliet

William Shakespeare
Romeo and Juliet, written by William Shakespeare, is a tragic play that tells the story of two young lovers, Romeo Montague and Juliet Capulet, who fall in love despite the long-standing feud between their families.
The play explores themes of love, hate, fate, and the destructive nature of the families' vendetta.
After secretly marrying, the lovers face numerous challenges, including the death of Romeo's friend Mercutio and his subsequent banishment.
A failed plan to reunite the lovers leads to their tragic deaths, ultimately bringing peace between their families.
The play is renowned for its poetic language, passionate romance, and violent conflict, making it one of the world's most beloved and enduring stories.
This week on The Literary Life podcast, Angelina, Thomas, and Ella continue discussing Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. They begin engaging with the text today by talking more about satire and parody as elements in this story. While recapping the major plot points in these chapters, they go deeper into the character of John the Savage, the ways in which this story is like a distorted reflection of The Tempest and Othello, as well as so many other Shakespeare references. Come back again next week for our final episode in this series as we cover the final chapters of Brave New World!
Don't forget to check out our show notes page for links to books mentioned, commonplace quotes, and today's poem! https://theliterary.life/303.
