Crypto's Ultimate End State With Avery Ching

Feb 10, 2025

Avery Ching, Co-founder and CEO of Aptos Labs, shares insights on the future of blockchain technology and the Aptos 2.0 roadmap. He discusses the evolution of Aptos as a high-performance L1 and the significance of user adoption in Web3. The conversation explores misconceptions around Aptos, the impact of AI, and how enterprise integrations can enhance blockchain applications. Ching also evaluates Solana's achievements and emphasizes the need for multi-chain interoperability to drive crypto's ultimate end state.

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ANECDOTE

Aptos's Origin Story

Avery Ching reflects on Aptos's journey since its Libra/Diem days in 2018.
Initially, the focus was a payments network supporting billions, expanding beyond Facebook to Visa, MasterCard, and others.

INSIGHT

Aptos's Technical Strengths

Aptos boasts scalability, low latency, and low cost, demonstrated by 2 billion TPS on preview net.
It achieves sub-second latency and low transaction fees, crucial for broader adoption.

INSIGHT

Ecosystem and Product Focus

Ching emphasizes focusing on ecosystem and product integration.
He highlights the importance of low fees enabling aggregators and new use cases like micropayments.

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Gm! This week Avery Ching joins the show to discuss the Aptos 2.0 roadmap. We deep dive into the current vs end state of crypto, building a high performance L1, the rise of AI, misconceptions about Aptos & more. Enjoy!

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(00:00) Introduction

(00:26) The Future Of Aptos

(07:39) Building Products In Crypto

(11:09) Designing A High Performance L1

(15:10) The Move VM

(18:52) Crypto's Narrative Cycle

(21:43) Building For Institutions vs Crypto Natives

(25:14) Ads (Ledger & Mantle)

(26:53) The Aptos Roadmap

(34:00) The Growth Of Solana

(36:17) Crypto's Ultimate End State

(39:22) The Rise Of AI

(42:03) Misconceptions About Aptos

(44:38) Getting Started On Aptos

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