J.W. Verret’s Debrief of the SEC Roundtable on Financial Surveillance & Privacy | EPI 373

Dec 19, 2025

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TODAY'S SHOW: In this episode of Monero Talk, Douglas Tuman and J.W. Verrett discuss privacy in cryptocurrency, regulatory issues, and the latest developments in the crypto space. J.W. shares insights from a recent SEC roundtable on privacy, where he praised SEC Chairman Gary Gensler's unexpected pro-privacy stance.

The conversation also touches on crypto-friendly politicians, including Congressmen Tom Massey and Tom Emmert, and discusses the potential of tokenized equity in DeFi, allowing global access to U.S. markets. JW highlights legal challenges faced by privacy tool developers, offers thoughts on Monero vs. Zcash, and reflects on recent progress within the Zcash Foundation.

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:01:00) - Doug mentions a big week for J.W. and talks about an SEC roundtable on privacy.
(00:10:13) - Future potential for tokenized equity in decentralized finance (DeFi).
(00:12:15) - Discussing whether the SEC should take action or simply announce non-interference.
(00:13:08) - Tokenized equity as a way to bypass traditional securities laws.
(00:19:23) - Importance of anonymity in privacy rights and connection to the U.S. founders.
(00:22:03) - The privacy vs. security debate.
(00:23:37) - Trump’s involvement in pushing for privacy coin pardons.
(00:26:04) - Discussion about MoneroTopia and building bridges between Monero and Zcash communities.
(00:32:07) - Speculation on government intervention and how privacy tech may be regulated.
(00:35:27) - Legal concerns over money transmission in decentralized privacy projects.
(00:39:37) - Importance of statutory reforms for the crypto and privacy coin landscape.
(00:43:00) - Roman Sterlingov’s case and its implications.
(00:51:10) - Reflection on the development and price action of privacy coins, including Zcash and Monero.
(01:00:36) - Closing remarks

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