In this follow-up episode, I continue my conversation with Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson, authors of The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better. We dive deeper into the strategies parents and educators can use to support kids who feel stuck in “passenger mode.” From fostering autonomy to the importance of relational health, Rebecca and Jenny share actionable insights grounded in science and their own life experiences.

We also explore what it takes to help kids move from disengagement to becoming true “explorers,” igniting curiosity and confidence. Whether you’re a parent, teacher, or simply passionate about education, this episode offers powerful takeaways on how to redefine achievement, support mental health, and create environments where kids can thrive.

Episode Highlights:

[0:00] - Kicking off Part 2: How nagging impacts kids’ learning and why relational health matters.
[2:29] - Tips for parents to help kids stuck in “passenger mode.”
[5:09] - The importance of pursuing interests—even if it’s crocheting or skateboarding.
[7:50] - A pottery class transforms one student’s approach to learning and growth.
[13:05] - The role of relational health in building resilience and curiosity.
[17:37] - Technology, sleep, and setting boundaries at home.
[21:23] - How curiosity can help kids engage deeply in school and beyond.
[30:58] - Easy, practical strategies for teachers to support autonomy and agency in classrooms.
[34:08] - Final reflections on creating an environment where kids can learn, feel, and live better.

Links & Resources:

Rebecca and Jenny's book: The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better

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