Maximizing Cloud Efficiency with Jerzy Grzywinski and Brent Segner
Feb 4, 2025
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Jerzy Grzywinski, a Senior Director of Software Engineering at Capital One with over 16 years in various engineering roles, and Brent Segner, a distinguished engineer focused on cloud cost optimization, dive into cloud efficiency. They discuss the complexities of compute optimization, exploring the benefits of horizontal scaling and the impact of programming languages on performance. The duo also emphasizes GPU resource management for AI workloads, as well as the importance of collaboration in navigating cloud costs and promoting cost-awareness in scaling organizations.
Balancing performance, cost, and resource availability is crucial for optimizing compute efficiency in cloud environments, especially with the rise of GPU workloads.
Building trust and collaboration between developers and FinOps teams is essential for achieving effective cloud cost optimization and mindful resource management.
Deep dives
Challenges of Cloud Compute Optimization
Optimizing compute resources in cloud environments involves balancing several factors, including performance, cost, and resource availability. The increased reliance on GPUs for workloads, notably in AI applications, complicates this optimization due to their high costs. This has led to a renewed focus on understanding compute efficiency to make informed decisions about resource allocation. Jersey Grzywinski and Brent Segner highlighted the significance of scaling strategies and the adoption of new instance types as crucial elements in optimizing cloud-based operations.
The Evolution of Capital One's Cloud Strategy
Capital One's decision to embrace cloud technology was driven by a need for innovative capabilities and to attract top talent within the tech space. Initiating a tech transformation that began around 2011, the organization aimed to shift from traditional methods to more agile and efficient cloud solutions. Previously, the onboarding of resources took weeks or months, but with cloud migration, this was reduced to mere seconds. This transformation not only improved time-to-market for application development but also emphasized the necessity for developers to consider cost efficiency in their day-to-day operations.
Building Trust Through Developer Engagement
To ensure successful cloud cost optimization, fostering trust between developers and FinOps teams is essential. Both Jersey and Brent emphasized the importance of understanding the developers' perspectives and motivations to build effective tools that meet their needs. By delivering constructive feedback and celebrating successes, the FinOps team can minimize penalties for inefficiencies while encouraging a culture of mindful resource management. This collaborative approach ultimately aids in achieving better performance outcomes while managing cloud expenses.
Adapting Optimization Strategies for GPU Workloads
Optimizing GPU workloads presents unique challenges compared to traditional CPU-based environments, primarily focusing on how effectively resources are utilized. As CPUs shift to GPUs, the optimization approach must evaluate how well GPUs are engaged, considering factors like thermal performance and resource saturation. Developers have to consider these complexities when designing algorithms and models to harness the full potential of GPU capabilities. Tools and metrics like CoreMark benchmarking can aid in making informed decisions about instance selection, ensuring that applications run efficiently and cost-effectively.
Compute optimization in a cloud environment is a common challenge because of the need to balance performance, cost, and resource availability. The growing use of GPUs for workloads, including AI, is also increasing the complexity and importance of optimization given the relatively high cost of GPU cloud computation.
Jerzy Grzywinski is a Senior Director of Software Engineering and leads FinOps at Capital One. Brent Segner is a distinguished engineer at Capital One and is focused on performance engineering and cloud cost optimization. Jerzy and Brent joined the show with Sean Falconer to talk about methods to measure compute efficiency, horizontal versus vertical scaling, how to think about adopting new instance types, the effect of different languages on compute efficiency, and much more.
Full Disclosure: This episode is sponsored by Capital One.
Sean’s been an academic, startup founder, and Googler. He has published works covering a wide range of topics from AI to quantum computing. Currently, Sean is an AI Entrepreneur in Residence at Confluent where he works on AI strategy and thought leadership. You can connect with Sean on LinkedIn.