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How Trump cuts are causing a ‘brain drain’ in American science

Jul 22, 2025
Gokhan Khotumishlegil, a Harvard physician scientist exploring metabolism's role in chronic diseases, and Marsha McNutt, president of the National Academy of Sciences and geophysicist, tackle the alarming impact of Trump's funding cuts on American science. They discuss how these policies may spark a brain drain, with young scientists considering relocation due to bleak funding prospects and regulatory challenges. The conversation highlights the urgent need for supportive infrastructure to keep the U.S. competitive in global scientific innovation.
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ANECDOTE

Scientist Forced to Move Abroad

  • Valerie Neiman, a US-trained chemical engineer, moved to Switzerland due to funding cuts in the US.
  • She feels relieved by better living standards abroad but misses her family and is nervous about returning home.
INSIGHT

Massive Potential Brain Drain

  • A poll found 75% of US scientists considering leaving due to funding cuts.
  • This represents a potential significant brain drain of American scientific talent.
ANECDOTE

Lab Loses Postdoc to Uncertainty

  • 30-40% of the research group members are international and face visa and funding concerns.
  • A postdoc left the lab due to uncertainty around funding and visa status under current policies.
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