This week, Brian interviews Rick Dunn, pastor the Fellowship Church in Knoxville, TN. Angie Ward, one of our favorite guests on the podcasts, told Brian that Rick Dunn is the one to talk about when it comes to adaptive leadership.

This week's podcast proves it. The concepts are so different from what we're used to hearing, it is difficult to even create an outline of this conversation. A few links from the conversation are below, but this is best enjoyed in just listening to the conversation. Enjoy. You can hear more of Rick on his podcast called Life Reframed.