The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Colin Cowherd Podcast - Colin Cowherd & Landon Donovan react to World Cup Draw: How Far Will Messi & Ronaldo Advance?

Dec 13, 2025
Colin Cowherd is joined by Landon Donovan, a U.S. soccer legend and all-time leading scorer, renowned for his analytical insights. They dive into the World Cup dynamics, discussing Argentina's strength with Messi, yet thriving without him. The conversation shifts to Portugal, exploring if they can finally secure a title for Cristiano Ronaldo. They critique England's unrealistic media pressure while celebrating the support for teams in North America. Donovan also reminisces about playing in iconic stadiums worldwide, sharing cherished memories.
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INSIGHT

Argentina Strong With Or Without Messi

  • Argentina remains elite both with and without Lionel Messi on the field.
  • Landon Donovan stresses managing Messi's minutes will be crucial for sustained success.
ADVICE

Manage Messi's Minutes Proactively

  • Plan Messi's minutes before the tournament to keep him impactful in knockouts.
  • Coach Lionel Scaloni should agree with Messi on a rotation to avoid overplaying him.
INSIGHT

Portugal Is More Than Ronaldo Now

  • Portugal has evolved beyond Cristiano Ronaldo and now contains high-quality supporting players.
  • Landon Donovan cites their Nations League win over Spain as proof they can be gritty and competitive.
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