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Who Is Nick Shirley? | PBD Podcast | Ep. 710

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Dec 31, 2025
Nick Shirley, an investigative journalist known for his eye-opening reports on fraud and immigration, discusses his viral daycare fraud investigation in Minnesota. He reveals shocking findings on millions paid to daycares without visible operations. The conversation delves into the federal government’s response, media pushback, and alarming evidence of fraud extending beyond daycares. Nick shares captivating tales of on-the-ground confrontations and the threats he faced while reporting. He also outlines his plans to investigate similar issues nationwide.
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INSIGHT

Power Of On‑The‑Ground Visual Reporting

  • Nick Shirley's Minnesota video went viral because he presented raw evidence on location instead of framing it as partisan politics.
  • That on-the-ground, visual approach forced journalists and officials to act faster than traditional reporting did.
ANECDOTE

Confrontation With CNN Over Doorstep Visits

  • CNN confronted Nick about visiting daycares during operating hours and he explained the issue wasn't timing but locked doors and unreachable contact numbers.
  • He stressed many facilities couldn't provide enrollment information despite receiving large public funds.
INSIGHT

Data Plus Fieldwork Multiplies Impact

  • Nick partnered with a local whistleblower, David, who had government-sourced records, enabling rapid verification and mapping of suspect providers.
  • Combining leaked data with field visits accelerated discovery and public impact.
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