
Turning to the Mystics with James Finley Dialogue 1: Chapter 10, The Long Text
Sep 12, 2022
Discover the mystic insights of Julian of Norwich as the hosts delve into her near-death vision and life as a recluse. Explore the distinction between seeking and contemplation, and the longing that accompanies spiritual growth. Engage with the metaphor of ocean depths to understand deeper oneness, and learn how desire echoes God’s own. Reflect on the transformative power of poverty and failure, while considering how to adopt an inner stance receptive to the mystical. Finally, experience the ordinary moments that reveal the divine in our lives.
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Seeking Versus Contemplation
- Julian distinguishes seeking (devotional sincerity) from contemplation (mystical oneness) as two interplaying stages of the spiritual path.
- Contemplation illumines and deepens seeking, revealing deeper meaning in ordinary devotion.
The Rhythm Of Longing
- Julian's rhythm: "I saw him, I sought him, I had him, I lacked him" captures the ongoing cycle of awakenings and longings.
- Repeated tastes of presence transform the seeker gradually into deeper receptivity.
Trust Presence Before Progress
- Trust where you are when God doesn't reveal more; God's presence fully sustains you in the present moment.
- Wait patiently, because when God wills, more will come and will be seen in God's light.




