Every aspect of legal practice is transforming before our eyes with AI as the catalyst and the enabler. It’s a challenging time for law firm leaders - it’s definitely not a role for the faint hearted.

On 18 March 2025, in the second podcast in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by three law firm leaders from Australia and New Zealand to discuss this and much more in Legal leaders in the AI era – Are we there yet?

Simon Newcomb, Partner, Clayton Utz
Dan Proietto, Chief Executive Partner, Lander & Rogers
Prue Tyler, Founder and Director, SHIFT Advisory Limited

Topics covered in this session included:

Whether law firm leaders need to think differently and lead differently in the AI era
Whether AI demanded a fundamental rethink of law firm structures, billing models, and governance and if so, how?
How you reskill lawyers, attract new talent, create multidisciplinary teams, and redefine roles to thrive alongside AI
How you introduce and embed AI without overwhelming everyone in the process
With AI democratising legal knowledge and making legal services/products/solutions more accessible, how law firms can stand out, create, and sustain unique value
Where law firms need to be on the AI Maturity Scale in the next 12 months, why, and how they will know if they have hit the mark

You’ll find details about the other topics we’ll be discussing in this series here.

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