#13 – Interview with Dave Snowden

In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe interview Dave Snowden, the founder of the Cynefin framework, a decision-making model designed to help leaders navigate complexity. Dave shares insights on how complexity is an inherent part of the world and why traditional management tools are insufficient for addressing it. The conversation explores the importance of focusing on networks and interactions, rather than just individuals, and the need for distributed leadership and rapid feedback loops. Dave also explains the value of starting with a sense of direction, rather than fixed goals, and highlights three key strategies for building resilient organizations. Tomas and Michael offer clarifications and reflections, making this an insightful discussion for anyone looking to lead in today’s uncertain world. Don’t miss this engaging episode and join us for more thought-provoking sessions in the Leading Complexity program!