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Megyn Kelly on Epstein, MAGA Fury, the Loyalty Test Trump Didn’t Expect, Plus the End of the Elites

Jul 17, 2025
Megyn Kelly, a prominent host and political commentator, dives into the complexities of the Epstein scandal and its unique impact on Trump's base. She discusses why the controversy is not a political death knell as some might wish. Kelly also unveils the unanswered questions that keep MAGA supporters engaged and critiques the significance of recent political actions. Additionally, she highlights the broader cultural fallout from the Epstein case, reflecting on the erosion of public trust in institutions and the need for transparency in politics.
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INSIGHT

Trump's Base Will Forgive

  • Despite anger over the Epstein story, Donald Trump's base is likely to forgive him and move on quickly.
  • His overall accomplishments outweigh the scandal in their eyes.
ANECDOTE

Trump and Epstein's Complex Friendship

  • Trump and Epstein had a close relationship, spending time together socially during Trump's pre-political years.
  • Their friendship may have ended over a bidding war or Epstein's inappropriate behavior toward a teenager.
INSIGHT

MAGA Demands True Accountability

  • MAGA supporters want genuine answers on Epstein, not just symbolic gestures like firing Comey's daughter.
  • There is much undisclosed information and many powerful names still unknown to the public.
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