In this episode, Dan speaks with Mike and Alicia Hernon of the Messy Family Project, about the challenges and joys of family life, the importance of encouragement for parents, and the foundational elements of a strong family. They discuss the necessity of prioritizing marriage, the role of community, and the transformative power of getaways for couples. The conversation emphasizes the need for intentionality in relationships and the impact of a healthy marriage on children.