Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Director Celine Song on ‘Materialists’ (Death, Sex & Money)

Jul 30, 2025
In this engaging conversation, Celine Song, acclaimed director of 'Past Lives,' shares her unique journey from struggling playwright to filmmaker, influenced by her surprising side hustle as a matchmaker. Joined by Anna Sale, the host of 'Death, Sex & Money,' they dive into the complex intersections of love and financial expectations, discussing the societal pressures faced by artists. Celine also reflects on personal histories and the freedom of artistic expression, providing insights into her latest film, 'Materialists,' and the emotional nuances behind it.
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INSIGHT

Direct Talk About Money

  • Talking openly about money is often seen as rude but is essential in understanding relationships.
  • Celine Song embraces this direct talk about money as a reflection of real desires in dating.
ANECDOTE

Matchmaking Revealed Harsh Realities

  • Celine Song worked as a matchmaker and saw people describing partners like products.
  • She contrasted that with her theater friends who were often deemed 'worthless' in dating markets.
ANECDOTE

Matchmaking Made Celine Less Judgmental

  • Celine felt like a tourist in matchmaking as she was a short-term day job worker.
  • The job made her less judgmental about people's desires and love.
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