They're Just Kids (with Chasten Buttigieg)

In case you haven’t heard, The Suburban Women Problem is wrapping up next week to make way for new podcasts out of Red Wine & Blue. As the producer of the podcast, I’m so grateful to Rachel, Jasmine and Amanda for 4 years of great conversations, and to you, our listeners, for joining us on this journey.

All endings are sad, but I want to assure everyone that this really isn’t good-bye. We’re developing new podcasts to meet the moment and we can’t wait to share them with you.

But for this week, I wanted to give The Suburban Women Problem the celebration it deserves. Every day, I’ll be reposting old episodes that were particularly meaningful for us – and, I hope, for you too. I’m starting with our very first regular episode, Season 1 Episode 2, where we talked to Jamie Jara, the mom of a trans daughter, along with the delightful Chasten Buttigieg. It’s amazing how far we’ve come, and yet how much we’re still dealing with these very same issues.

There’s one interpretation of this episode that’s awfully depressing. Trump is president again, and people in the LGBTQ community– especially trans kids – are under attack more than ever. 

But it’s important to say this too. Four years later, Jamie Jara and her daughter Dempsey are thriving. Dempsey dreams of becoming of an actress and actually appeared in the HBO show We’re Here and was even on stage at the 2023 GLAAD Awards to help accept an award for the show.

And Chasten Buttigieg is thriving too! He’s continued to publish books and even better, he and Pete become parents of twins.

The political landscape may be grim, but they cannot take our joy. And that itself is an act of resistance.

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