Eric Adler, Professor of Classics at the University of Maryland, discusses the friendship and intellectual relationship between Irving Babbitt and Paul Elmer More. They explore their differing views on religion, the concept of new humanism, and the evolution of their relationship over time. They also delve into the absence of virtue in contemporary society and the legacy of these two important intellectual figures.
The book 'Humanistic Letters' offers insights into the friendship and intellectual relationship between Irving Babbitt and Paul Elmermore, key figures in the new humanism movement.
New humanism emphasized ethical dualism, character development, and criticized romanticism and scientific naturalism.
The correspondence between Babbitt and Moore addressed the topics of religion, atheism, and the decline of new humanism's prominence.
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The Correspondence and its Significance
The podcast episode discusses the recently released book of correspondence, 'Humanistic Letters: The Irving Babbit, Paul Elmermore Correspondence.' The book explores the correspondence between Irving Babbit and Paul Elmermore, two key figures in the new humanism movement. The book provides insights into their friendship, intellectual relationship, and the development of new humanism. The correspondence sheds light on their views on religion, offering a deeper understanding of their perspectives beyond their published works. This book is significant as it presents an insider's perspective on their ideas and discussions that cannot be gleaned from their published works alone.
New Humanism and its Origins
The podcast delves into the new humanism movement, an informal literary and social criticism movement led by Irving Babbit and Paul Elmermore. The movement emerged in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and gained prominence in the 1920s and 1930s. Babbit, as an undergraduate, laid the foundation of new humanism, drawing inspiration from historical humanistic movements and envisioning a broader approach to include thinkers from different traditions. The movement emphasized ethical dualism, the importance of character development, and a critical stance against romanticism and scientific naturalism. The episode highlights how new humanism differed from contemporary humanism, offering a distinct philosophy of life rooted in virtue and character.
Babbit and Moore's Perspectives and Legacy
The conversation between Babbit and Moore in their correspondence touched on various topics, including religion, atheism, and the increasing secularism of their time. While Babbit saw atheism as wrong and believed in the importance of a religious sense, he criticized the perversion of religious traditions into mere humanitarianism without spiritual depth. Moore, on the other hand, exhibited intellectual exploration and a spiritual journey throughout his life, which sometimes diverged from Babbit's views. The podcast reflects on the legacy of new humanism and the decline of its prominence, particularly with the onset of World War II. Despite this decline in recognition, the ideas and critiques of Babbit and Moore remain relevant today, especially in the face of societal trends that prioritize self-advertising virtue over actual moral actions.
Babbit's disappointment with Moore's shift towards Christianity
Irving Babbit, a prominent figure in the humanist movement, became distressed when his close friend and fellow writer Paul Elmer Moore began articulating right-wing Christian criticisms of humanism. Babbit saw Moore's move as a betrayal of the humanist movement and expressed disappointment, as he believed it would narrow the movement's appeal and limit its potential impact. Despite their disagreements on religious matters, the two remained best friends throughout their lives.
The pragmatic and spiritual dimensions of their disagreement
The split between Babbit and Moore had both pragmatic and spiritual dimensions. Pragmatically, Moore did not see himself as a follower of a movement and was less concerned about personal prominence or building a movement around his ideas. Babbit, on the other hand, was deeply committed to establishing humanism as a significant approach to life. He believed that aligning humanism exclusively with Anglicanism or any specific religious tradition would limit its effectiveness and appeal. Spiritually, Babbit had a more ecumenical and syncretistic outlook, while Moore saw religious undergirding as essential for people to live up to their higher impulses. Their differing views on religion and the role of humanism ultimately led to their disagreements and differing paths.
This episode I'm joined by Eric Adler who is a Professor of Classics at the University of Maryland. We discuss the book he recently edited: Humanistic Letters: The Irving Babbitt-Paul Elmer More Correspondence
Book link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Humanistic-Letters-Irving-Babbitt-Paul-Correspondence/dp/0826222900 --- Become part of the Hermitix community: Hermitix Twitter - https://twitter.com/Hermitixpodcast Support Hermitix: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/hermitix Donations: - https://www.paypal.me/hermitixpod Hermitix Merchandise - http://teespring.com/stores/hermitix-2 Bitcoin Donation Address: 3LAGEKBXEuE2pgc4oubExGTWtrKPuXDDLK Ethereum Donation Address: 0x31e2a4a31B8563B8d238eC086daE9B75a00D9E74
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