Burnout doesn’t discriminate—it hits practitioners across all fields. In this episode, Liat sits down with two incredible trauma-informed BCBAs, Robyn Gutierrez and Jessica Woolson, to dive into the heart of self-care and anti-burnout strategies. Robyn, founder of Reflect & Refine, and Jessica, founder of The Wellness and Behavior Collective, share their personal and professional journeys in creating holistic, accessible approaches to wellness that empower practitioners to care for themselves, their coworkers, and their employees.

Whether you’re a BCBA, teacher, healthcare worker, or anyone in a demanding role, this episode is packed with insights on how trauma-informed care, mindfulness, and self-compassion can transform your life and work. Listen in for a raw, relatable, and inspiring conversation about beating burnout and putting yourself back on your priority list—you matter too.

Behavior Concepts Covered:

Motivating Operations

Magnitude

Independent Group Contingency

Respondent Conditioning

ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy)

Punishment

Reinforcement

Want to learn more about our guests?

You can find Robyn at https://reflectandrefine.net or on Instagram @reflectandrefine_

You can find Jessica at https://www.wellnessbehaviorcoach.com or on Instagram @thewelljessjourney

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You Matter Too: Beating Burnout with Trauma-Informed Care