PBD Podcast The Truth About Scientology w/ Mike Rinder | PBD Podcast | Ep. 191
Oct 7, 2022
Join former Scientology executive Mike Rinder, a vocal critic and author of "A Billion Years," as he reveals the inner workings of the controversial organization. He shares his personal journey within Scientology, the manipulation tactics used, and the unsettling dynamics of its leadership. The discussion touches on the church's problematic origins, power struggles, and the mysterious disappearance of key figures. Rinder offers insights into the church’s decline, the influence of celebrity members, and the critical importance of questioning its narratives.
02:01:35
Positive Experiences with Scientologists
- Patrick Bet-David recounts his positive experiences working with Scientologist salespeople.
- He admired their strong work ethic and dedication, even engaging in debates at their church.
Rinder's Scientology Upbringing
- Mike Rinder explains how he was raised in a Scientology household from a young age.
- He joined the Sea Organization, signing a billion-year contract.
Hubbard's Authority
- L. Ron Hubbard positioned himself as the ultimate source of knowledge on any topic.
- This created dependency, making followers reliant on his answers.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Inside Scientology: A Personal Journey
02:23 • 14min
The Deceptive Origins of Dianetics
16:39 • 20min
Behind Closed Doors: The Dynamics of Scientology Leadership
37:00 • 27min
Power, Betrayal, and Unanswered Questions
01:03:48 • 2min
The Disappearance and Power Struggles in Scientology
01:05:49 • 18min
Unmasking Control: Scientology and Power Tactics
01:24:05 • 9min
Power Dynamics and the Parable of the Monkey Master
01:33:00 • 4min
Scientology at a Crossroads
01:37:26 • 22min
Navigating the Truth About Scientology
01:59:44 • 1min
Mere Christianity
C.S. Lewis
In 'Mere Christianity', C.S.
Lewis argues for the existence of God and defends Christian theology.
The book is divided into four parts: the first argues for the existence of God based on the 'law of human nature'; the second defends Christian theology, including the 'Liar, lunatic, or Lord' trilemma regarding Jesus Christ; the third explores Christian ethics, including the cardinal and theological virtues; and the fourth discusses the Christian conception of God, particularly the Holy Trinity.
Lewis also addresses topics such as free will, morality, sexual ethics, and the institution of marriage.
The book is known for its clear and logical presentation of Christian apologetics and has been praised for its straightforward and humorous writing style.
The great Gatsby
F. Scott Fitzgerald
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The story delves into themes of honesty, the temptations of wealth, and the struggle to escape the past, ultimately reflecting on the disintegration of the American Dream.
The Prince
Niccolo Machiavelli
Written in the early 16th century, 'The Prince' is a realistic instruction guide for new rulers.
Machiavelli argues that an effective leader must be skilled in the art of war, sometimes cruel, and willing to use deception and manipulation to achieve political goals.
The book is divided into chapters that discuss various types of principalities, how to acquire and maintain power, and the qualities a prince should possess.
Machiavelli uses historical examples, including the career of Cesare Borgia, to illustrate his points.
The treatise emphasizes the importance of maintaining the goodwill of the people and the stability of the state, even if it means deviating from traditional virtues.
'The Prince' remains a controversial but influential work in modern political philosophy.
A Billion Years
My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology
Mike Rinder
In 'A Billion Years', Mike Rinder shares his personal journey from being raised in Scientology to becoming one of its highest-ranking officials.
The book exposes the inner workings of the Church of Scientology, detailing Rinder's experiences with its leadership, including L. Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige.
It also chronicles his escape and subsequent efforts to help others leave the organization.
Think and Grow Rich
Napoleon Hill
Published in 1937, 'Think and Grow Rich' is a seminal work in the self-help genre.
The book is the result of over twenty years of research by Napoleon Hill, who studied the habits and achievements of more than 500 successful individuals, including Andrew Carnegie, Thomas Edison, and Henry Ford.
Hill distills their wisdom into thirteen principles that, when practiced with persistence and faith, can transform dreams into reality.
These principles include the power of desire, faith, specialized knowledge, organized planning, and the role of the subconscious mind.
The book emphasizes the importance of maintaining a positive mental attitude, setting clear and specific goals, and taking consistent action to achieve success.
It also explores the concept of the 'Master Mind' alliance and the need to overcome fears and doubts to achieve one's objectives.
Dianetics
The Modern Science of Mental Health
L Ron Hubbard
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The book posits that the human mind consists of two parts: the 'analytical mind' and the 'reactive mind'.
The reactive mind, according to Hubbard, stores traumatic memories called 'engrams' which cause aberrations and various health problems.
The book describes 'Dianetic auditing' as a method to eliminate these engrams, leading to a state called 'Clear', characterized by superior IQ, moral purity, and improved mental and physical health.
Despite its claims, Dianetics has been widely criticized by scientists and medical professionals for lacking scientific evidence and being pseudoscientific.
The Sociopath Next Door
The Ruthless Versus the Rest of Us
Martha Stout
In this book, Martha Stout, a clinical psychologist, explores the phenomenon of sociopaths living among ordinary people.
She reveals that about 4% of the population lacks a conscience, feeling no shame, guilt, or remorse.
The book provides case studies and practical advice on how to identify sociopaths, who can be charming but lack empathy, and how to protect oneself from their manipulative behaviors.
Stout emphasizes the importance of recognizing the signs of sociopathic behavior and offers guidelines for handling interactions with such individuals, including questioning authority, suspecting flattery, and avoiding the pity play.
Your Next Five Moves
Patrick Bet-David
Greg Dinkin
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It offers clarity on personal and professional goals, strategy for decision-making, growth tactics for various business conditions, skills for building a strong team, and insight into power plays and leverage.
The book is based on Patrick Bet-David's own rise to becoming a successful CEO and provides real-world examples and long-term thinking strategies for business success.
The Book of Mormon
Another Testament of Jesus Christ
Mormon and Moroni
Joseph Smith
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The book emphasizes the appearance of Jesus Christ to these people after his resurrection, where he teaches them and establishes his church.
It also discusses various doctrinal topics such as the fall of Adam and Eve, the nature of God, baptism, and the importance of faith and repentance.
The book ends with Moroni's testimony and an invitation to readers to come unto Christ and be perfected in him.
From Dictatorship to Democracy
Anatoly Krasikov
Gene Sharp's "From Dictatorship to Democracy" explores nonviolent resistance strategies for achieving political change.
The book details numerous methods used throughout history to overthrow oppressive regimes without resorting to armed conflict.
Sharp emphasizes the importance of strategic planning, mass participation, and maintaining discipline in nonviolent movements.
His work has influenced numerous activists and movements globally, providing a framework for effective nonviolent resistance.
The book's enduring relevance lies in its practical guidance for achieving democratic transitions.
In this intriguing episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Mike Rinder & Adam Sosnick to discuss international politics, the religion of scientology and how he came to be one.
Michael John Rinder is an Australian-American former senior executive of the Church of Scientology International (CSI) and the Sea Organization based in the United States. From 1982 to 2007, Rinder served on the board of directors of CSI and also held the post of executive director of its Office of Special Affairs, overseeing the corporate, legal and public relations matters of Scientology at the international level.
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Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.