The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

History Meets Galaxy with Tony Gilroy and Mike Duncan

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Jul 10, 2025
Tony Gilroy, an Oscar-nominated writer and the mind behind "Andor," teams up with Mike Duncan, bestselling author and podcaster renowned for his historical insights. They dive into the complex psychology of historical leaders, questioning the motivations behind their actions. The conversation meanders through the unpredictable nature of revolutions, drawing parallels to current societal tensions and even the politics of Star Wars. Tune in for an engaging exploration of how stories shape our understanding of history and contemporary struggles.
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How Revolutions Spark and Why History Rhymes

Revolutions don't just happen because of misery; they're triggered by a complex interplay of behaviors, motivations, and chance events. Mike Duncan explains that revolutions often start with a shared opposition to a common enemy, but once this enemy is overthrown, factions quickly form, fighting amongst themselves.

Tony Gilroy adds that individual behavior and motivation, such as fear, desperation, and personal chaos, drive these movements more than ideology alone. Importantly, revolutions aren't inevitably planned or orchestrated — often they ignite unexpectedly from small actions like protests or accidents.

Both emphasize that while history doesn't repeat exactly, it "rhymes," showing similar patterns of revolutionary dynamics through the ages. Understanding these intricate social and psychological ingredients helps decode not just past revolutions but the tinderbox moments we may be living through today.

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Revolutions Often Rhyme Historically

  • Revolutions have recurring structures and character types across history.
  • History doesn't repeat but it often rhymes, showing patterns in chaos.
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History as Behavioral Catalog

  • Tony Gilroy uses history as a behavioral catalog, focusing on character motivations.
  • He prioritizes authentic, consistent behavior over absolute historical truth in storytelling.
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