Brazil has the 3rd largest Ukrainian community in the Americas. Over half a million Brazilians have Ukrainian origins, with most of them descendants of 19th century labor migrants. In this episode, we navigate through the unexpected links between the two countries, and analyze why relations between Brazil and Ukraine are difficult today. The Explaining Ukraine podcast invites you to a conversation at the PEN Ukraine / UkraineWorld event with Brazilian authors. The conversation took place in Kyiv, at PEN Ukraine’s headquarters, in September, 2024. The event was held within PEN Ukraine’s programme “Solidarity with Ukraine” supported by the International Renaissance Foundation. Participants: Sérgio Utsch, Brazilian journalist; Flávia Tavares, chief editor of Meio online media; Guto Pasko, Brazilian filmmaker, screenwriter, and producer with Ukrainian origins. Host: Volodymyr Yermolenko, Ukrainian philosopher, chief editor of UkraineWorld and president of PEN Ukraine UkraineWorld (ukraineworld.org) is brought to you by Internews Ukraine, one of Ukraine’s largest media NGOs. Listen on various platforms: https://li.sten.to/explaining-ukraine Support us at patreon.com/ukraineworld. We provide exclusive content for our patrons. You can also support our volunteer trips to the front lines at PayPal: ukraine.resisting@gmail.com. Interpretation (Ukrainian - English): Anna Vovchenko This episode is produced in partnership with the Ukrainian Institute, the country’s major public and cultural diplomacy institution.