In this takeover episode, recorded on Juneteenth, we chat personal  tokens in Ethereum and their implications against a broader backdrop of  slavery, control and the negative aspects of imbuing humans with  attributes we reserve for property. 

Our guest is Elizabeth Renieris, an  entrepreneurial attorney, policy advisor, and strategic consultant  passionate about the impact of emerging technologies on privacy,  identity, civil society, and collective consciousness. 

Our conversation  tackles the more malign areas of experimentation and the imperative need  for broader diversity in perspectives and view points if we want to  continue progressing vs regressing. 

We ran out of time quickly so let me  know if you'd be up for the sequel.